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Old 01-18-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: dont know if im gunna spend the money

Actually , with my Vs3...all of the maintenance that's been really required. It's taught me a lot about what my gun's internals do and how to fix something when something goes wrong.
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Old 01-18-2007, 03:25 PM
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seems like there are a lot of problems with these markers. if you look through the forum, almost every post is some kind of problem. sorry spyder, looks like you fell a little bit short of the mark with this guy!

I don't believe that there are that many problems. It just seems that way. Just like there are 10 million airplane flights before one crashes. Then when one crashes, everyone thinks that flying is not safe.

You'll never hear, "Man, I shot my Spyder all week and it was great!" That's because everything is fine and dandy.

You'll mostly hear problems because people want to have fun!

If it's mechanical, you're going to have issues no matter what the brand.

That's what these Forums are for, trouble shooting........
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:44 PM
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Also, your probably hearing a lot of problems because people dont want to post about how good their VS is or something.....Most people post because they are having a problem, and need help.
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:30 PM
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how many vs series markers do you think kingman has produced. a whole lot of them. now count up the "bad" postsa bout them for problems and i bet it is less than 5% and probably less than 2% of the total made. you are only seeing a small section of the markers that are out there.
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:43 PM
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seems like there are a lot of problems with these markers. if you look through the forum, almost every post is some kind of problem. sorry spyder, looks like you fell a little bit short of the mark with this guy!
The only VS series I've seen on the playing fields was last weekend (VS3). It performed OK for about 3 rounds then the owner was complaining that the marker was leaking air, and not accurate with shots. I do not own a VS nor would I buy one after I saw it in play. I would describe this marker as "entry level", the kind your grand mother would get at Wal-Mart as your birthday gift.
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I would tend to argue that. Have you seen this owner play before with a high-end marker? Or was this his first time out? You have to take into account user-error.
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Old 01-20-2007, 05:15 PM
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I would tend to argue that. Have you seen this owner play before with a high-end marker? Or was this his first time out? You have to take into account user-error.
Agreed, I do not know the player. however I did ask him if he's played this sport much and his reply was 2 years. Not sure if thatís every weekend or not, but still thatís better than most, wouldnít you agree? When your going up against the like's of Dye's & Angel's (which is par for most places these day's) and most players are seasoned (at the places I frequent) from what I saw this marker just did not cut it. Thats all, my 2 cents for what its worth.
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Ah, I see what you mean... I recently lent a friend of mine's son my Ion after running out of paint (took out everyone but one the last 4 games with that sucker), and he made it half-way through a game and called himself out. He came over to me handing me my marker saying "It's broken." I looked at him odd, turned it on, handed it back over, and kicked him back onto the playing field.

It's not in the marker, but more the player to prove the marker worthwhile.
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Ah, I see what you mean... I recently lent a friend of mine's son my Ion after running out of paint (took out everyone but one the last 4 games with that sucker), and he made it half-way through a game and called himself out. He came over to me handing me my marker saying "It's broken." I looked at him odd, turned it on, handed it back over, and kicked him back onto the playing field.

It's not in the marker, but more the player to prove the marker worthwhile.
Exactly, this sport is all about strategy first, then the marker. As long as you can push paint @ 280 fps (30-BPS helps) you are equal. The marker is merely the tool in which you deliver your message. The rest is all strategy (your move)
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if after watching one person play with a marker you are going to label bad you must be glad it was a spyder to pick on. I have seem timmies break in games does that make them bad? I have seen ions break before they even got on the field at a tournement once. does the ion suck? I htink you need to know the history of themarker. was it taken care of. does the kid even know how to hook up the air the first time? I think you are jumpig the gun saying the gun is bad from that expierence. just my 2 cents.
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