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Old 12-21-2006, 08:22 PM
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Hey, i know you can use a remote line (coil) for the /3000 but how about the 4500? sorry its late and im sleepy and you guys probably get this alot
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Old 12-21-2006, 08:27 PM
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Since there's only 800psi coming out of them, 3000psi is overkill lol. Answer? Ya -
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Old 12-22-2006, 06:21 AM
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All right so do you think im better off getting the 88 (or anything)/4500 over the 72/3000? since i can use both on a remote, and the 4500s are alot lighter?

And do i need to buy a special remote? or can i just use the one i used on my 20 oz?

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Old 12-22-2006, 11:07 PM
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You can use the same ones. The remote lines out there on the market nowadays normally hold up to 3000psi, even though the tanks have a maximum output of 1100psi or so (that's the maximum out of an adjustable that I can think of.... regular screw-ins are only 800-850psi).

I'd say lighter would be better, even if you're moving up in cubic inches. I'd prefer a 68/45 personally, but that's because I have my tank on my marker. In your case, I'd bring whatever I'd be wearing the tank with (if you put it in your pack, then bring that) and find out what the largest size I could fit in it would be. Then, I'd pick out a weight that feels right below that size.

Yes, you can use the same remote. Tanks use a universal thread to make it easy on us all.
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Old 12-22-2006, 11:37 PM
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You can use the same ones. The remote lines out there on the market nowadays normally hold up to 3000psi, even though the tanks have a maximum output of 1100psi or so (that's the maximum out of an adjustable that I can think of.... regular screw-ins are only 800-850psi).
Until regulator failure. Then it's over 1400psi output...ask me how I know...
I'd say lighter would be better, even if you're moving up in cubic inches. I'd prefer a 68/45 personally, but that's because I have my tank on my marker. In your case, I'd bring whatever I'd be wearing the tank with (if you put it in your pack, then bring that) and find out what the largest size I could fit in it would be. Then, I'd pick out a weight that feels right below that size.

Yes, you can use the same remote. Tanks use a universal thread to make it easy on us all.
As tim already said, an on-marker tank should be around 68 to 71 ci and 4500 psi..
If you wear a scenario vest, the tank size won't matter much. a 3000 psi tank holds less gas than a 4500psi tank of the same cubic inch -

68/3000 gives ~680 shots (3000 psi = ~10 shots per cubic inch)
45/4500 gives ~675 shots (4500 psi = ~15 shots per cubic inch)

the 45/4500 is physically smaller...to give you an idea....

and tank weight depends on what you can physically carry but look here if it concerns you that much....

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Old 12-23-2006, 12:10 AM
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Of course... if the tank is working properly it will vent if the output pressure gets over 1200psi. That means that you have to put the right things on it and maintain it properly.

Druid's numbers are slightly off... All depending on what kind of marker you'd be using this on, but I'd anticipate closer to 1000 shots from a 45/45.
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Old 12-23-2006, 10:43 PM
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thanks guys, helped alot!
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Old 12-23-2006, 11:21 PM
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Druid's numbers are slightly off... All depending on what kind of marker you'd be using this on, but I'd anticipate closer to 1000 shots from a 45/45.
Druid's numbers are the widely accepted shots per tank method based on a blow-back marker at ~850 psi...so it's not out of the realm of possibilities, now is it?
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Old 12-23-2006, 11:36 PM
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Not out of the realm, no. BUT, your marker must have some REAL bad lube in it to make it that inefficient....

If a marker gets approximately 1,500 shots per 68/45 (the standard efficiency nowadays), then it should get just about 992.65 shots from a 45/45. Just by my math, though.
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yeah yeah...your math has been under suspicion for years Vike will agree with me...won't you vike?
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