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Old 01-08-2006, 12:28 PM
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Talking Sypder Imagine 04 - Air Pressure

Howdy folks, so I'm a noob, and just placed an order for a Spyder Imagine 04... price seemed good to me, and everything I have been reading says its a pretty fair mid range marker for the price.

My question here... it states it has a Low Pressure chamber, in addition to an expansion chamber.... So I purchased a PMI Pure Energy Fixed N2 Tank - 72ci 3000psi, that looks like it outputs 850psi. What is the output I should actually be using? I ended up ordering a PMI Pure Energy In-Line Regulator, with an output adjustable from 200 to 800 psi. I'm just not sure what the best way to go is here.

Anyone feel like helping out the noob, so he can give you another target out there?

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Old 01-08-2006, 02:58 PM
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In addition to the marker, get a chronograph. I use THIS ONE CLICK ME but the standard you see on the field is THIS ONE CLICK ME

your psi determines your fps. Take 3 shots over the chrony and up/lower your fps to between 270 and 280.

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Old 01-08-2006, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Sypder Imagine 04 - Air Pressure

PE products certainly arent the best but it won't be as bad as installing a Kingman reg anyways. The output pressure of the reg was the correct choice. The HP tank was the correct choice as well. You will need a new 1/8" npt stainless line, metric adapter and possibly a 1/8" npt 90* elbow for the reg -
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Old 01-08-2006, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Sypder Imagine 04 - Air Pressure

Do I still need the new line, if I'm going to use a remote?
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Old 01-08-2006, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: Sypder Imagine 04 - Air Pressure

hi guys
D ruid he wont be able to get down to those pressures without mods
stock parts just wont do it,as for his setup looks good to me without going
lp. If youd like to go LP please follow otters guide ,helped me tremondously
my imagine 04 runs at between 275 and 300 psi ,only prob ive had is with FPS and i mean not getting below 270s
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ACS delrin bolt
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32 Degrees spring kit
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BTI Apex barrel
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In addition to the marker, get a chronograph. I use THIS ONE CLICK ME but the standard you see on the field is THIS ONE CLICK ME

your psi determines your fps. Take 3 shots over the chrony and up/lower your fps to between 270 and 280.
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Old 01-08-2006, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Sypder Imagine 04 - Air Pressure

So basically what i'm gathering, is to use the HPA at 850 PSI and adjust, and to get the LP going, I'll have to get a new bolt and everything else... so the regulator I ordered is pretty much useless at this point?
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Old 01-09-2006, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: Sypder Imagine 04 - Air Pressure

No not useless... Instead of doing what eveyother noob spyder guy is doing about Chronoing (turning spring preasure up or down) you will have the ability to adjust it using the reg to determin the air preasure that flows into you gun instead of adjusting spring preasure.
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Old 01-09-2006, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: Sypder Imagine 04 - Air Pressure

Thanks guys, hopefully I can get all this figured out.
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Old 01-09-2006, 10:31 AM
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Do I still need the new line, if I'm going to use a remote?
You can take the quick diconnet male nipple and put it in the place of the fitting on your regulator and lose the bottomline ASA altogether. I personally don't like how it makes the gun weigh, but it's all up to your preferences.

To get a Low Pressure set-up, you will need a high-flowing Vertical Adapter (V/A) and some modifications done to your internals. That should get your marker down into the mid- to low-pressure range by itself. If you feel the need to use lower pressure still, then you can upgrade your internals. All the modifications you cn do to your marker are covered on OtterSC's site, and they have a review to go along with them.
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Old 01-18-2006, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: Sypder Imagine 04 - Air Pressure

Wasup everyone, I'm nwew to the paintball realm. I have the newest spyder imagine and I'm very interested in this discusion about it. I would like to know exactly what i need to make it work with HPA since it seems to be better than using CO2. What parts would I have to buy to use for example a 72ci-3000psi tank? I not familiar with some of the parts mentioned above such as the 1/8" ntp thing. I am not interested in changing to LP but I would just like to know what's needed for HPA on the new spyder imagine. Thanks in advance.
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