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Old 07-14-2006, 05:01 AM
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I got my new Electra 06 in yesterday and I had just enough air to test it out. Now I see why the rocking trigger is not tournament legal. You can put one finger on the side of the trigger and just barley move it in an up and down motion and that gun will shoot 30 bps easy. So my question is why do they make a Marker that most fields are not going to want on there field. If I was to fire the Marker in that manner and hit some one with in a second they would be hit 30 times. The gun is very accurate so most likely all 30 shot would hit about the same place, now I don't care how you are that is going to hurt. Don’t get me wrong I like the gun. There are a few things that need to be fixed on the next release of the Marker.
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The grip does not fit flush so there is a gape for dirt, paint and other things to get in. The gun sounds like a cannon. Once you shoot it every one will know you are there.
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The marker is very fast (maybe two fast) the Marker looks good. The marker seems to be as sturdy as all the other Spyders before it. Very accurate

All in all I love the Gun going up against this gun will be like taking a M16 and going head to head with M240G (that is a machine gun) I am glad I am going to be on the end of the gun that is fireing not being fired at.
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Old 07-14-2006, 05:09 AM
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The rocking trigger was made to allow those players that can't really walk a trigger to shoot faster. As far as hitting 30bps on it, not likely. The Pro's can't hit 30bps with their Egoss and DM6s on semi. I am not even sure if it is possible to move your fingers that fast.
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Old 07-14-2006, 05:27 AM
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...........As far as hitting 30bps on it, not likely. The Pro's can't hit 30bps with their Egoss and DM6s on semi. I am not even sure if it is possible to move your fingers that fast.
Thing is, he's not walking the trigger, he's bouncing it which doesn't require any skill at all. I noticed the rockers were very simple to bounce when I tried one when they were first released at the Super7 '05. Bouncing should easily hit 30 especially with a Spyder that has no noid to restrict flow like the higher end markers. Thing is, with this particular marker you'd need a hopper that can feed that fast as well. The eyes will restrict the ROF to whatever ROF capability it has. It is most likely not hitting 30 but whatever ROF the hopper will let it do. Dry firing with the eyes off can assuredly hit 30 bouncung it -
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I will make a video tonight I am telling you there a sweet spot on the trigger and when you hit it the balls just fly. I was shooting the gun as fast or faster then when it shoots in auto. he is write about the Hoper my hopper only does about 15 bps. in order to get the gun to cycle that fast I turnd of the eyes and dry fired it. but the gun seems to only be limited by how fast the hopper can feed the Gun. I can say that it was a littel earatting when I tried fireing the gun that fast with the balls you would get dead spots in your fireing because there was no ball in the chamber. wich just shows the eyes work great. is there a hopper that will feed 30 bps. because I have some payback to do on all the people that lit me up when I was shooting my xtra.

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Old 07-14-2006, 05:35 AM
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I hear ya Dragon.

And agree with the loader issue. Even if it was bouncing, then the loader would not keep up, unless it is a Q-Loader.
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.......... I was shooting the gun as fast or faster then when it shoots in auto.
Well that's not too fast then since they only do about 14bps in modes lol -
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Old 07-14-2006, 05:44 AM
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You would need a hoper that worked like a vacuum in order to feed the gun as fast as it can shoot. Hay that is a good Idea I should design a hoper that sucks the balls down in to the gun. Nay that would not work I don't think there is a way to shove 30 balls in a second in to a gun.
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I am just wandering if I removed one screw from a contact, so you could just fire of one of the contacts do you think they would let me use the gun in a tournament or would I need a totally different trigger.

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You would need a hoper that worked like a vacuum in order to feed the gun as fast as it can shoot. Hay that is a good Idea I should design a hoper that sucks the balls down in to the gun. Nay that would not work I don't think there is a way to shove 30 balls in a second in to a gun.

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Old 07-14-2006, 05:53 AM
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They are not restricted in all tourneys. That's just a fairy tale. You would need to set it up to not bounce though. I'm sure most tourneys check for thet type of schtuff -

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