ok,i have dicided,opinions?

[pman15]

yes i no i have been saying a lot that im getting this paintball gun or that one but this time i have come down to my finall 2 decisions,ok here they are:

1.Proto Matrix 05 for 450$, or

2.Smart Parts SFT Shocker Vision for 440$

i really need your guys opinions on wich one i should get,please state the gun u think is better and if u could explain why the gun is better.All help is appreciated!

[DyNasty9]

are they both stock??

[pman15]

yes,but for the shocker add a virtue

[DyNasty9]

ok i say go for the shocker, i love mine. its easy to take apart and clean. and with that virture it will mow faces.

[timmyshoota]

Go with the Proto. Dye's Fuse bolt is far superior to SP's spool. SP's has less parts, but just isn't as efficient as the Fuse. Also, with slight modding the Fuse bolt can be made even better. Virtue isn't gonna make you shoot anyone in the face better. It's just gonna give you some extra options and unneccessary modes. If you play PSP or a PSP-type tourney series, then a board will be good. If you always play semi, a board is not necessary. The stock boards on Protos have the options you need. The Proto also looks better IMO. Trigger guard is bigger on the Proto, I hated the trigger guard on my Shocker. Shocker is "easier" to clean and lube, but seriously, 5 minutes more is not going to kill you. There's nothing difficult about cleaning and lubing any gun.

I've owned a Shocker before, and have lots of experience with Dye guns and PM5s.

[pman15]

Originally Posted by DyNasty9

ok i say go for the shocker, i love mine. its easy to take apart and clean. and with that virture it will mow faces.

yes,i just looked at the one site selling them and i think i fell in love with the blue and black color,lol! but i like what the shocker can do,and since i really can't afford those hpa tanks at the moment the shocker can run on c02woot woot! ,but i think i am gonna go with a shocker,thanks for the post dynasty9,and timmyshoota

[Nader]

What year shocker?
If it's got the HE kit in it already, and the Virtue, then go for it!
Without the HE kit, ask for a little lower price.
Go for the shocker either way....hehe

EDIT: Don't run your shocker on Co2! Even if it's anti siphoned, the Co2 will wear out your internals very fast, and everything will freeze at high rates of fire.

[pman15]

[quote=Nader]What year shocker?
If it's got the HE kit in it already, and the Virtue, then go for it!
Without the HE kit, ask for a little lower price.
Go for the shocker either way....hehe

um not sure but here it ishttp://www.gizmos-uk.com/Smart%20Parts%20SFT%20Shocker%20Vision.html{the blue and black one,not the dynasty one}

[pman15]

Originally Posted by Nader

What year shocker?
If it's got the HE kit in it already, and the Virtue, then go for it!
Without the HE kit, ask for a little lower price.
Go for the shocker either way....hehe

EDIT: Don't run your shocker on Co2! Even if it's anti siphoned, the Co2 will wear out your internals very fast, and everything will freeze at high rates of fire.

um not sure wich year but here it is http://www.gizmos-uk.com/Smart%20Par...%20Vision.html

[Nader]

Didn't see it on that link....somewhere else on the site?