2008 Spyder RS

[spy alelo]

And yet, here I am again. I got my replacement o-rings for the striker, and velocity dropped to 240-270fps (jumping all over the place). Removed the new o-ring, installed the urethane ring again and velocity went back to 292-293fps, very consistent velocities. So what gives? Anyone has a clue as to why the original o-rings will not work properly, yet the urethane rings for the Co2 tanks works best?

[Talon]

I got no clue, but if it works use it

[spy alelo]

Oh of course. I am just curious as to why, I like finding the cause of a problem rather than just patching it. I am beginning to think that the striker may be the issue. The silicon rings are pretty loose, while the urethane ring is pretty tight in comparison (the o-ring is a bit bigger, just enough). Could be that they milled this striker just a bit too much, where the o-ring goes. I think I can test with another striker and find out.

[bigred76]

It could be, Spyder is not known for their excellent tolerances. If it works, it works... ya know what I mean?

[spy alelo]

Yeah, I know.

[spy alelo]

Anyone here with a Spyder RS, RSX or VS2-VS3? I need a picture of the bottom of the body, right above the trigger so I can compare to mine. I think the speed problems are far more serious than I thought.

[spy alelo]

I wanted to give an update on the issue.


I sent the marker back to Kingman, and they were able to figure out what the issue was (thanks Joseph). The striker was not the right size, seems like the only way they were able to figure that out was by measuring it with a micrometer.

That explains why the issue was fixed using a bottle oring, which could simply just have been a bit bigger than the red oring. He also saw that the gun was sputtering once he fixed it (same issue happened to me with the urethane rings). The Musashi 7 chip dwell settings needed to be reprogrammed, to decrease the time the solenoid is energized since the striker now takes less time to reach the sear due to a better seal.

I hope this info helps any of you guys, now I have my full speeds with very little effort. I don't know what the tolerance level should be for the striker with this particular marker, but according to Joseph, it varies from model to model. For example, you shouldn't use the striker from a VS2 on a 2009 Electra even if it fits, the small difference in size can affect the way it works.

[SundragonPPS]

Originally Posted by spy alelo

I wanted to give an update on the issue.


I sent the marker back to Kingman, and they were able to figure out what the issue was (thanks Joseph).........

Joe is one knowledgable guy and on top of that, a very cool cat! Good to see you got things worked out

[spy alelo]

Yeah, he knows his thing. I would have never thought that the sputtering was caused by the dwell settings on the Musashi 7, he was able to figure that out in a heart beat.

[ferret15]

Originally Posted by spy alelo

I wanted to give an update on the issue.
The Musashi 7 chip dwell settings needed to be reprogrammed, to decrease the time the solenoid is energized since the striker now takes less time to reach the sear due to a better seal.

Oh cool, what is yours set at, the lowest i could get my vs2 was 3.5ms