Calling anyone who has ever driven a car

[marvin-martian]

Originally Posted by oldironmudder

TRB, I could do without the trip to college. If you paid to set it up I would be glad to give it a whirl.

YES!! Please do this.

[DFSniper]

hmm, matt, this could be your next business endeavor. instead of a racetrack or dragstrip, start a public rally course!

[marvin-martian]

SOC race meet?

[Ace24]

Originally Posted by battlechaser

First off... pretty much anything can be drifted, and the truck wouldn't necessarily tip over as my friend used to do it in his 88 Bronco II (there's a tippy POS for you.. ) it's VERY hard to do using something with a high center of gravity like that, but it can be done. So there solves the whole Import vs anything else thing as well. Believe it or not, you can also use a FWD, it's just much, much harder, and you tend to wear out your rear brakes quicker from initiating the drift, as alot of the time you have to ass drag before the car will really break loose. Your best bet for drifiting though is something with a low center of gravity and good torque numbers at high RPMs, as I mentioned you can try using FWD, but it's better suited to AWD or RWD. RWD is the most common you'll see out there, most teams don't bother with anything else, and on top of that, most AWD cars in it have been modified to RWD. You'll want something with high torque at high RPMs because if you see most of these guys doing it, they're pretty much riding the rev limiter when they downshift into the corner.

And I believe the guy you were talking about was Keiichi Tsuchiya aka the Drift King. He actually put out a how to video a while back called the Drift Bible, GREAT vid, he's actually in The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift as well, he's the guy smoking and fishing on the pier when they're training in the Evo.

Sorry for the novel, I really miss owning a RWD sports car. Maybe when I have the cash/time/money I'll buy another Datsun... Or maybe an AE86..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzlrQHJYedk - Drift Bible Part one... of many...(it's like 1.5 hours if I remember correct)

You're preaching to the choir. Haha.

I'd love to have a 240SX, 240/300/370Z or a AE86. Hell even a RWD Miata.

[Ace24]

Originally Posted by oldironmudder

First of all I was joking. No mustang, a truck, as in regular cab short bed 2 wheel drive. Quick revving mid to top end motor, manual shifting auto & 3.70-4.10 geared rearend. I really think it would be possible to do rather easily in a field if it were big enough. 4 wheel drift? Can easily be done on dirt. Yes trucks are lighter in the rear but if you know how to drive them & work the motor & gears you shouldnt have a problem driving. I have spent countless hours behind the wheel on dirt at high speed in both 2& 4 wheel trucks.

TRB, I could do without the trip to college. If you paid to set it up I would be glad to give it a whirl.

You can't drift in an auto... Your car will shift and the tires will grip, not spin like they need to.

Originally Posted by Critical

You're not talking about the Drift Alliance mustang are you? The green and blue one driven by Vaghn Gitten?

White and blue. Japanese guy drives it.

Originally Posted by DFSniper

yeah, i think he means the Falken one. but thats driven by an american IIRC.

Toyo one.

[battlechaser]

Originally Posted by Ace24

You're preaching to the choir. Haha.

I'd love to have a 240SX, 240/300/370Z or a AE86. Hell even a RWD Miata.

AMEN! :P

I loved my 1980 280zx, it was the epitome of the starter drift car, beat up, **** suspension, but ran ok. It was really fun to drive because you're sitting on the rear axle, so you can feel every little weight shift. But sadly, this was also my first car, and the insurance killed it for me. (Bought the car for $2500, paid $4500 in insurance for the first year). Since then I've been driving fwds, probably get a truck before I get another sports car..

[oldironmudder]

Originally Posted by oldironmudder

First of all I was joking. No mustang, a truck, as in regular cab short bed 2 wheel drive. Quick revving mid to top end motor, manual shifting auto & 3.70-4.10 geared rearend. I really think it would be possible to do rather easily in a field if it were big enough. 4 wheel drift? Can easily be done on dirt. Yes trucks are lighter in the rear but if you know how to drive them & work the motor & gears you shouldnt have a problem driving. I have spent countless hours behind the wheel on dirt at high speed in both 2& 4 wheel trucks.

TRB, I could do without the trip to college. If you paid to set it up I would be glad to give it a whirl.

Originally Posted by Ace24

You can't drift in an auto... Your car will shift and the tires will grip, not spin like they need to.

How could an auto trans shift, either up or down, with a manual valve body? It is basically a manual trans with a fluid coupling.

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After rereading my other post, what i said could be very easily misunderstood. I meant a full manual valve bodied automatic transmission.

[RSX99]

Don't like the 350z Ace?

[battlechaser]

Originally Posted by oldironmudder

How could an auto trans shift, either up or down, with a manual valve body? It is basically a manual trans with a fluid coupling.



After rereading my other post, what i said could be very easily misunderstood. I meant a full manual valve bodied automatic transmission.

You'd probably be far better off using a manual, you use the clutch a lot while drifting. Mainly for straightening the car back out, you pretty much just hit the clutch so the front an rear wheels equalize in traction. Don't get me wrong, you can do it with an auto, again, it's just a little harder as you have to steer out of every drift.

Remember, drifting isn't just mashing the gas into a corner, that's only one type (Power Over). The dynamic drifting later on in the Drift Bible shows you how to accomplish it different ways, in Mudder's case he'd be using the Feint technique alot (arguably the most fun, as you don't have to play around with heel+toe braking and acceleration/shifting as much).

Originally Posted by RSX99

Don't like the 350z Ace?

I'd agree with him, the newer ones have very limited legroom. When driving a 350, my head is touching the roof while I'm slouching, my left leg is pinned between the door and the steering wheel, and my right is caught between the wheel and the center console. It might be a little different in the hard tops, but I hated the soft top I drove. Don't know if they changed it for the 370, but personally, I'll stick with the older models, aka 96 and below. If you're under like 5'5" the 350 would be fine..

[TheDarkShadow]

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