Mech Spyder Or SP Vibe

[Quick_2]

Since you veterans have so much expirience ithought you owuld be able to help me with this... is it better to keep my slightly upped Spyder MR1 or go with a Cheap EP SP Vibe?... i dont think i'll every be needing 11bps so the vibe is my type of gun... but i still like the reliability of my MR1... so should i go with teh new EP Vibe or stick with my Mech MR1?

[The Pumper]

stick with mr1

[vwjimmy]

If you are happy with the MR....why spend more money? You could get some other cool stuff with the $$ instead!
If you are upgrading or switching markers anyway, then you need to fire both and decide!
Good luck either way!

[Quick_2]

I play speedball in the woods.. so im looking for a few more bps and a muych easier trigger pull... i know that i wouldn't have any trouble sticking with the mr1 and i would probly be just fine... but i also know eventually i will have to upgrade anyway.. and since my only oprion for air is co2 because the HPA station closest to me is 100km+...the vibe is a great choice for me that way... i might be able to take some shots from a Vibe on wednesday so i'll see..

[pb34]

Well if you want electronic you could always buy an electric trigger frame for the MR1. If your happy with the way its performing I would save the money and just buy some upgrades!

[chnk]

the vibe would be basically the same as adding an eframe to your mr1, not that big of an upgrade.

if you're gonna upgrade to a better gun. aim for a higher end

[Critical]

Several of the SP1/Vibe owners have reported that there are issues with freezing of the regulator when using CO2 if they get anywhere near the 11bps cap. Now, no one has confirmed whether or not they were using anti-siphons on their bottles, so that may have had something to do with it, but it's something to think about.

[druid]

Questions/comments numbered and answered accordingly...because of the whiners that hate me changing font colors...

Originally Posted by Quick_2

Since you veterans have so much expirience ithought you owuld be able to help me with this...

1. is it better to keep my slightly upped Spyder MR1 or go with a Cheap EP SP Vibe?...
2. i dont think i'll every be needing 11bps so the vibe is my type of gun...
3. but i still like the reliability of my MR1...
4. so should i go with teh new EP Vibe or stick with my Mech MR1?

1. If there's nothing wrong with your MR1 then there's no real 'need' to replace it.
The only reason for getting __insert marker here__ is to
A: have something different to shoot
B: have a back-up marker "just in case" the MR1 goes down
C: have multiple markers to fulfill the varied applications of them (woodsball, recball, speedball, scenario, etc...)

2. The SP1 might be a better choice because it's easier to maintain than the vibe. Having the same basic internals as the Ion/Vibe/EOS, I'd go with the SP1, simply for the BOB option and the ~$150 price tag.

3. Read my answer #1

4. That's entirely up to you. You need to decide what is best for you.

Don't fall into the "pro-vs.-con" hype of the fanboi agglets, with preconceived notions about a marker or company they know little or nothing about. My favorite of all time is the 11 year old player (with a whole year of playing under his belt...but has all the paintball knowledge ever gained...imparted to them by God, while they were still in the womb ::eyeroll:: ) - that talks **** about Smart Parts' business practices and yet owns everything else by Virtue, Kee/NPS, Halo/Empire - whomever - that they glorify these other products and condemn another company.

...they need to STFU and realize that all the big companies are doing it and either accept it or get out of the game all together.

Look into the SP1...or any other marker for that matter. See if you can shoot one at a proshop. Determine then if it's what you want.

Originally Posted by Critical

1. Several of the SP1/Vibe owners have reported that there are issues with freezing of the regulator when using CO2 if they get anywhere near the 11bps cap.
2. Now, no one has confirmed whether or not they were using anti-siphons on their bottles, so that may have had something to do with it, but it's something to think about.

1. Yes...but you can have that with any marker with CO2...including the least expensive mech-framed Spyders...or E-framed spyders. Any regulator, even those specifically designed for CO2, will freeze at higher rates of fire.
2. It's likely that the noobletts that reported it did NOT antisiphon their CO2 as probably instructed to at least 50 times each - so you are probably right.

Even WITH antisiphon, the CO2's still extremely cold. All the antisiphon does is draw the gas off the top of the tank instead of the liquid. Even though it's already changed somewhat to gas, it's still expanding as it enters the asa...and it's still extremely cold....so it's extremely likely the simple fact that it's CO2. Had the cheap bastards used HPA (like they know they should), there would be nothing "bad" to report and sway public opinion.

[Quick_2]

Hem Hem.... also considering the fact that us cheappies cant get access to HPA... becuase it's more than an hour drive... anyways... if i got it i would already have a new set of grips for it to... i'd love to go to a shop and shoot one... if there wasa shop near me... so im going to the city wednesday so i'll try my hardest to shoot one... how much easier is a electric trigger liuke the opne on the vibe to pull than a mechanical...

[Critical]

I don't think that Druid is saying you are cheap, but that those who reported problems with freezing on their EP markers without taking all the precautions neccessary. However, you are faced with the choice of purchasing a marker that works far better on air than CO2, or upgrading your current marker (or purchasing an electro Spyder/similar) that runs perfectly fine on CO2 and you don't have to worry about anti-siphons, freezing, limiting rate of fire, etc.