PM8 - Pic released from matrixowner.com!

[Ace24]

Originally Posted by Chris Cole

Good prediction Vike. Although not sure why they'd mess with that design.

Same reason they messed with the body... because they can... and "need something new."

[Oscum Guy]

i like the dent. my question is, how will they make the dm8 better than it?

[HelpDeskHustler]

The hyper 3 is supposedly designed with a new architecture and put in a smaller package. I've heard it used springs rather than disks, but no confirmed reports of this.

a few questions I have are:

is the ul trigger still sucky?
where is the LPR at?
will the dm8 have that annoying on/off

My predictions for Dm8 differences are:
self cleaning eyes
different layout
more expensive

[Jegger24]

The "dent" is a little awkward...but it is still a Dye product.... HOT! Can't wait to see them!

[applesauce]

Originally Posted by Chris Cole

Although not sure why they'd mess with that design.

something to do....

[vikingshadow]

Originally Posted by Chris Cole

Good prediction Vike. Although not sure why they'd mess with that design.

Good question, but then I didn't expect them to "dent-i-fy" the matrix body ala Shocker...I figure they'll do it because there's nothing left to change to satisfy the hordes of "gotta have something new every five minutes" gun traders. Long rant involved there - but not the time or place!

Originally Posted by HelpDeskHustler

The hyper 3 is supposedly designed with a new architecture and put in a smaller package. I've heard it used springs rather than disks, but no confirmed reports of this.

a few questions I have are:

is the ul trigger still sucky?
where is the LPR at?
will the dm8 have that annoying on/off

My predictions for Dm8 differences are:
self cleaning eyes
different layout
more expensive

The UL trigger isn't sucky. It ranks up there with one of the best triggers I've used to date on any frame (if you're talking about the one in the UL frame and not the single version for the PMR.)

It looks like there are only two places it can be - if it's actually vertical as I've heard. Either located within the "dent" on top of the reg (remember, it's supposed to be a smaller LPR) or underneath through the frame itself. Orrrrrr, if there actually ISN'T an LPR, I'd like to point out that I predicted that way back when I reviewed the PMR and I'm now snickering at the people who made fun of the LPR'less Matrix.

I bet it has some sort of on/off - not sure which one, though. I would bet they stay with the self-cleaning eyes, not sure of the layout, but definitely more expensive!

[timmyshoota]

I've seen a pic of the DM8, but its got a Hyper 2 reg on it, so I don't know if I should believe it or not. The body milling is awesome though, so I kinda hope that part is correct.

[HelpDeskHustler]

DM6 UL trigger is one of the worst I've ever felt.

Problems I have with it are:
-Spring Tension point isn't fast without the pull being heavy
-Removing the spring makes it too floppy
-Trigger Activation point sucks for close riding trigger setup
-The angle it sets up at doesn't feel right on the UL frame
-releasing pointer during a tighter walk shooting posture requires a longer pull to get it off the activation point so you middle can hit.
-Wobbly

[timmyshoota]

I can agree with all of Claus's points when I had my Shocktech DM5 with a UL frame, but the trigger on my DM7 felt great. Dunno if there were changes, or if it was how it was setup, but it was great.

[vikingshadow]

Hmmm, never held a DM6 UL frame before so I can't say, but I know my PMR UL trigger is none of those things. Spring tension is perfect (for me - I can rip like no other), I feel no need to remove the spring whatsoever, the activation point is very similar to my Shocker activiation point so it feels good to me, angle? It's comfortable to me - almost straight up and down, with the bottom the exact distance needed and not to much of an angle, and my trigger isn't wobbly whatsoever.

I guess it's mainly a feel and opinion because I disagree. Or maybe the DM6 UL is just a crappy version...I dunno.