Spyder Rodeo info and help.

[KILLER_K™]

Well i finally get to post , thanks Spyder for allowing me to join the forums and also hi to everyone.

Okay, i bough a used rodeo spyder from a friend.Everything is stock on it and nothing is modified on the gun.I have a few issues with the gun and also need some parts for it as well.

The gun just want shoot far at all i mean like 50 feet is max on a full tank on c02.Tried a few different co2 tanks and all resulted in same thing low performance.As the guage doesn't work on the gun and the pressure dial at the back of the gun is all the way in and nothing helps.

The trigger i don't know but if you pull it too far back it will lock in the back position.I'm not sure it may suppose to do this, as i really don't know much about them.

Though it may just needed cleaning got the exploded pdf and cleaned the gun and noticed a few o-rings need to be replaced but wasn't leaking.

So where do i get a new set of o-rings from and a pressure guage at?Also is there a manual for this gun all i have found in the parts list and exploded view of the gun so far.

Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated as all this is new and i bought it to kill some time with and get to know how these paintball guns work, etc.

Thanks for your time.

[KILLER_K™]

Wow , where is everyone at?I noticed most post go unanswered or get maybe 1 reply , etc.Come on people lets help here , i thought i would get some help but the way it is looking maybe not.

I mean 30 views and not one reply back is odd, maybe i perhaps worded the questions wrong but i thought for regular paintball marker users these questions would be easy to answer but i could be wrong.

Thanks

[Critical]

I'll take a stab at it. First, we'll assume that there was enough CO2 in each of the tanks, so you can eliminate one of the most common cause of poor distance. That leaves pressure inside the marker as the next most likely culprit. Without having a gauge, it's hard to tell what's going on inside. One thing you can try is to back the velocity adjuster out to about half way, Spyders are picky. Sometimes tiny adjustments up or down can cause velocity spikes or drops, having it all the way in might be part of the problem. Missing o-rings may also be contributing to this, you might not hear the leak, but it could still be there.

For the trigger, no, it should not lock up when all the way back. Take the frame off the body, check to make sure there's nothing in the way of the sear (that's the little metal thing at the top of the trigger frame). Also take the grip off. Check that there's nothing in the way of the solenoid (metal barrel shaped thing), or the trigger.

You can find gauges online cheap. New, they run anywhere from $10-25. They are all the same. Find one that you like that the average pressure will be nearly centered on the gauge. Gauges are most accurate in the center. Stock Spyders operate at ~800psi, so find a gauge that shows ~1500psi. eBay and other places sell oring kits, they're a rip-off, but you can get the parts you need. If you can't find them anywhere, I've got a bunch of extras, I can put together a kit for you, just hit me up on PMs.

Go Here to find out about upkeep and maintenance of the marker.

Kingman doesn't really put out a lot of info on their markers, the exploded diagram is about it.

[pb34]

A pressure guage might be a huge help in solving your problem. I believe that the Rodeo has a regulator. Your problem may be that the regulator is adjusted too low. I'm not sure how to adjust it as I don't own a Rodeo but there is most likely a screw on it that can be turned to adjust it.

You can buy guages and o-rings at most online paintball stores such as www.actionvillage.com or www.e-paintball.com

[Critical]

Stock the Rodeo only has an expansion chamber.

[pb34]

No, I'm pretty sure Rodeos come with regulators. If you look at some of the other posts in the Rodeo forum you can see.

[Critical]

I had a rodeo as my very first marker, no regulator, just an expansion chamber that looks like one. Even says in the manual, part #2644 Expansion Chamber.

[pb34]

Originally Posted by Critical

I had a rodeo as my very first marker, no regulator, just an expansion chamber that looks like one. Even says in the manual, part #2644 Expansion Chamber.

Oh I guess your right considering you've owned one.

[Kenny_McCormic]

Why would there be a gauge on a ex chamber? look at part #35e regulator adjust screw

[vikingshadow]

I believe the Rodeo has a regulator where the ASA is, not where the expansion chamber is.

Edit: Yup! Just as I thought...here is a list of features on the Rodeo:

Semi-automatic
Matte finish anodizing
Double-finger trigger
Vertical Feed
Drop forward
Anti double feed
Expansion chamber
Regulator with Gauge
Sight Rail with beavertail
Barrel length: 12’

Ok, first of all, our apologies! I didn't see this thread, or I would have welcomed you to our little forum. Anyway, welcome!

My thoughts are this:

1. I don't want to assume, so are your Co2 tanks full? Sometimes the Co2 tank isn't really as full as we think.

2. If it is, then there's an issue with the Co2 getting into the gun. Check the regulator. As I remember, Rodeo regulators are kind of crap (sorry, Kingman!) As I said, I believe it's located where the ASA is. See if you can adjust that. It may be turned down too low.

3. If the regulator turns out fine, check your hose. Most stainless steal line comes with a filter on the end of it (inside the fitting.) Look to see if it's gummed up with anything. If so, clean it or remove it and see if that helps.

4. Moving further up the system, you may want to check your valve. Make sure the orings are good and lubed and that there is nothing wrong with the cup seal. Make sure the pin moves freely.

5. Check your striker. Make sure the o-ring is good and oil it well.

6. Check your main spring (behind the striker.) Is it weak? If so, you may want a stronger spring. Also, while your there, look at the shim. (Long skinny thing that fits in the spring.) Check to see if there is a metal round piece that fits inside the back of the velocity adjuster - this makes it possible to actually use the adjuster - otherwise, the shim and spring are useless and you won't be able to adjust anything. Are they in good shape?

If all this is in good shape, then I don't quite know where to go from there. That's all there is to the velocity of a spyder....

As far as the trigger problem goes, it sounds like something is getting in the way. First of all, remove the grip from the body. Look into the top of the grip. Is it dirty? Is there paint all gunked up in there?

Make sure the sear (the metal rectangle piece set at an angle) moves freely when you move the trigger. It should move towards the grip when you pull the trigger. It should a sharp edge on top - this catches that little groove in the bottom of the striker and holds it in place until the trigger is pulled again. If it's not sharp, it won't catch well.

Look around in there and see if there's something that doesn't look like it belongs around the sear when you pull the trigger all the way back. Is the spring still installed?

Check all this stuff out and then get back with us.

Again, welcome to the forums and sorry for the late responses!