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07-09-2007, 02:09 PM
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What to do?
What is the point in getting an hp tank on this http://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/resou...tspertank.html
it says that you get more shots with a 20oz co2 tank than a 68cu. hp tank. so what is the bennefit? 
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07-09-2007, 02:12 PM
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Re: What to do?
Higher end guns (anything that uses a solenoid to move a ram) cannot take Co2. It will freeze it and ruin any orings and warp the little parts in it. Therefore, it's HIGHLY recommended to use HPA in that case.
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07-09-2007, 02:28 PM
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Re: What to do?
yes only an hp tank will work
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07-09-2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: What to do?
it wont freeze your pilot.the pilot can take co2 or hpa..so dont worry
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07-09-2007, 03:49 PM
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Re: What to do?
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07-09-2007, 03:50 PM
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Re: What to do?
No, I'm not saying it will freeze your gun. And Kenny, without a dodgy, people who don't know you will think your being serious! In case you are serious, um, no!
OK, in very simple terms, and not described entirely, the solenoid in an EP gun (electropneumatic) operates differently than the solenoid in a common spyer such as a Pilot. In an EP, air is channeled (most usually) from the HPR into the ram or spool. Some air is channeled into a LPR (if the gun has one) and then channeled to the back of the gun to move a ram forward - or to put air into a dump chamber of sorts. Then the air from the HPR is released to move the bolt the other direction. This way, the bolt is moved back and forth without a sear and hammer/valve and pin assembly. The operation of this solenoid is somewhat delicate, so if you were to get liquid Co2 in there, it would damage the orings and the small pistons and such in that particular piece of equipment. Granted, a regulator would more than likely stop the Co2 from getting that far, especially when coupled with an anti-syphoned tank. However, the chance of ruining a 125 dollar solenoid is too great to chance it. Also, you take a chance on ruining a regulator if it's not designed for Co2. As far as how you can tell if your "freezing your gun" is if frost develops on your regulator, and if the gun itself feels extremely cold when you fire at high rates of fire. I actually did this 2-3 times with my torpedo reg, and my Sonix and it worked fine afterwards, though I did develop problems with my striker orings afterwards. In guns like the Spyder, it's electrically moved to trip a sear to release the hammer, then resets itself to catch the hammer with the sear again. The air has nothing to do with the operation of the solenoid, so no damage can be done there. Yes, Co2 is perfectly fine for Spyders. If you get an aftermarket regulator, you need to make sure it's one designed to accept Co2. BL Torpedos, Palmers, and Ergo regs are the only ones I can come up with off the top of my head, though I know there are a couple others out there that can. Co2 can also be used with guns like an Ion, as explained in the manual, but no one in their right mind would use it!
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