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Old 12-13-2007, 05:40 PM
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Old 12-13-2007, 05:44 PM
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OOOHHH I was told that green was the "go buy another cause it wont come apart" one... oh well, learned something new today.
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:49 PM
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There are more colors than that......some greens hold very well!

As to Kenny........Most CO2 tanks have that little tiny relief hole........it will vent some CO2 out but your talking about the possibilty of 20 oz of CO2 throught that little hole. It's a safety but not a good one. Realize that as you are hitting that little hole you have alot less threading making contact and they have stripped the threads in the past and shot off. On CO2 you always want to use Blue loctite but only a drop on the bottom three threads. HPA is a totally different story.

This is from guerrillaair.com
Q. Do I have to LocktiteTM the regulator into the bottle?

A. For a long time now the use of LocktiteTM when installing the regulator to the bottle has been an issue. At Guerrilla Air our primary concern is player safety, as such we use a small amount of medium grade, removable LocktiteTM when installing our regulators on a 47ci/3000PSI bottle. The reason being is this system is primarily used by players new to the sport of Paintball and field rental systems. This being said, we do not use LocktiteTM when installing our regulators on a 68ci/4500PSI bottle, as these systems are typicaly purchased by a seasoned player who needs to travel and must remove the regulator from the bottle during the security screening at the airport. We will be happy to LocktiteTM or not LocktiteTM your regulator into the bottle for you, simply specify wether or not you would like us to LocktiteTM the regulator into the bottle when you order.

This is the only reason I don't loctite because I travel alot!

Now look at this!

Notice they have milled large air channels all the way down the threading. They are large and there is at least two. It can dump the whole bottle very fast! The threads are also twice as long as your typical CO2 pin valve threads! The reg manufacturer's spend alot more time in development and put alot of extra safety measures in their products. CO2 tanks and valves aren't removed enough to warrant those same costly safety measures. Now put your CO2 pin valve back on with loctite before someone gets killed!
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:03 AM
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Both of my valves have enough threading that there is full contact when the safety port is showing. I should of took a pic of the valve on my 20oz when i had it off it has the two big channels and holes in the channels.
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Old 12-17-2007, 08:50 PM
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here's another thng to consider...

Locktite is a thread-locker...not a hole filler like JBWeld would be.

A filled bottle with more than ........I'ma saaaaaaaaayy.......50 psi in it, it's extremely likely that the LocTite clogging that hole would be blown out as the rest of the tank's contents vented. It's even more likely that with more than the 50 psi...would have definately blown that out. It's a small hole with a lot of force behind it (yes, 50 psi is a lot in this particular instance)...I wouldn't stake my life on the 50 psi number...I'm just saying - it's thread-locker. It's meant to create a bond in between a tooth and a gland of a screw...not plug a hole. Could it? Possibly...but not likely.
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:39 PM
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:hugs druid:

I loctite my HPA tank... but that's because I don't travel.
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Old 12-18-2007, 02:18 AM
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:09 PM
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here's another thng to consider...

Locktite is a thread-locker...not a hole filler like JBWeld would be.

A filled bottle with more than ........I'ma saaaaaaaaayy.......50 psi in it, it's extremely likely that the LocTite clogging that hole would be blown out as the rest of the tank's contents vented. It's even more likely that with more than the 50 psi...would have definately blown that out. It's a small hole with a lot of force behind it (yes, 50 psi is a lot in this particular instance)...I wouldn't stake my life on the 50 psi number...I'm just saying - it's thread-locker. It's meant to create a bond in between a tooth and a gland of a screw...not plug a hole. Could it? Possibly...but not likely.
I should test that, be dangerous if done incorrectly but i got a few ideas, will post vids if i ever do it.
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:55 PM
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If you do, I'd suggest getting a REALLY good scale so you can accurately measure how much CO2 goes in the bottle...and start with just the "purge" charge only...something like what...1/8 oz? of liquid...and go up from there. For safety's sake, I wouldn't go any higher than once full ounce of CO2...that should take you up about a few hundred psi.

I'd also mount the tank reg in a vice with the purge hole up...and have someone holding plexiglass over the valve so the videographers are protected from the venting as you turn the bottle to expose it.
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Old 12-18-2007, 06:29 PM
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Ummm so you know the physics of CO2.......how much you have doesn't matter at all. Ultimately CO2 is all relevant to the temp and so if there is any liquid at all you will be at a PSI on the CO2/Temp curve. In otherwords if you were to rig it to test with regular air you could slowly add normal pressure via a regulator and it would be much safer. This comes from the guy who almost blew himself up doing CO2 expirements! I now know what happends when 20 oz. of CO2 liquid is induced to a palmer's reg. It fails!
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