What's a good HPR?

[rayray88]

Could anyone please guide me in the right direction to this topic. I'm new to the regulator world. I would like to use one to better tune my spyder pump project once it's gets rolling. I'm curious though because from what I've been reading most regulators now days are LPRs. I think if I run CO2 on a pre-2k5 spyder I would need an HPR, correct?

[TheDarkShadow]

many early spyders didnt even have an expansion chamber, let alone a reg, so to my knowledge you dont need one to run co2

[rayray88]

Originally Posted by TheDarkShadow

many early spyders didnt even have an expansion chamber, let alone a reg, so to my knowledge you dont need one to run co2

Oh the early ones didn't. But I'm wanting to use a regulator so that I don't have to play with different spring combinations. I'm also reading that you can fine tune the regulator better than spring tensions. Is the regulator route not a good way to go?

[Lawpass]

You don't necessarily need a HPR to run CO2 but you do need a reg that works with co2, not all of them do.
You might still find yourself playing with spring combinations though.

[bigred76]

A quality regulator is an excellent way to go with any marker. I would highly recommend a Palmer's Stabilizer due to it's extremely good results with CO2 and decent results with HPA. I say decent results for HPA because there are many better than it in the HPA only regulator market, but not any I can think of off the top of my head in the CO2 regulator market. You WILL have to play with your springs no matter what you do, but the regulator will make the process much easier. With a Spyder (and any Intimidator based marker), the HP air flowing in from the HPR helps seal the cupseal/valve closed. So, more pressure from HPR means lighter valve spring and heavier main. Less HPR pressure, and you should go with a lighter valve spring and a lighter main than with more pressure.

You also play with this in Autocockers, particularly in Snipers.

[rayray88]

Thanks for all your guys' help thus far. I know you said 'quality' red but dang, $100 is a lot for me to spend, on just a part, for a hobby thing. Is there anything comprable to a palmer's stab? I was reading that Bob Long Torpedos are pretty decent as well as AKA sidewinders and 2-liters.

[VagabondStarJXF]

The Palmer's Stab is pretty much the way to go with CO2. I tried using an old torpedo but that had trouble keeping up then froze up when I started firing a little faster. I know it's expensive but you can't beat its quality. Think of it this way... you could spend money on another reg and not get the results you want and end up buying the Stab anyways, therefore spending twice when you could just save yourself the time, hassle and a maybe bit of money by just going for the Stab first.

[rayray88]

Ok I'll take the plunge since you guys say it's worth it. I think I'll browse pbn or mcb and searh through the sales threads. I seem them for sale from time to time and I'm not in a rush to finish the project. Thanks for all the help guys.

[vikingshadow]

I used a Torp on my spyders, an it was good enough that I then moved it to other guns. I never had any problems with it freezing or anything like that with Co2. It's a good regulator and costs a LOT less than the Stab...

Just sayin...quality is awesome and all, but on a budget, the Torp is the way to go. And imho, the Torpedo may not be top of the line, but it's darn close.

[rayray88]

Thanks for another perspective viking. Also thanks for you spump tutorials. It helps A LOT. Did you use the torpedo on the pump you made?