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Old 03-28-2009, 03:00 AM
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Great pistol, but combined price is kinda high. I can afford either pistol, or clips, or paint, but not all three at the same time. I'm mostly dissapointed by the price for paint. I was attracted to part in advertising where it said "save money on paint". I guess I will save money in a way that it's too expensive to play around with it
Still, I'm glad to see a new and lighweight product in this field. I hope they will expand their range with some mag-equipped rifles
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:16 AM
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Here I put the brakes on for Kingman. Straight from the California Penal Code:

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247.5. Any person who willfully and maliciously discharges a laser
at an aircraft, whether in motion or in flight, while occupied, is
guilty of a violation of this section, which shall be punishable as
either a misdemeanor by imprisonment in the county jail for not more
than one year or by a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), or a
felony by imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months, two years,
or three years, or by a fine of two thousand dollars ($2,000). This
section does not apply to the conduct of laser development activity
by or on behalf of the United States Armed Forces.
As used in this section, "aircraft" means any contrivance intended
for and capable of transporting persons through the airspace.
As used in this section, "laser" means a device that utilizes the
natural oscillations of atoms or molecules between energy levels for
generating coherent electromagnetic radiation in the ultraviolet,
visible, or infrared region of the spectrum, and when discharged
exceeds one milliwatt continuous wave.
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417.25. (a) Every person who, except in self-defense, aims or
points a laser scope, as defined in subdivision (b), or a laser
pointer, as defined in subdivision (c), at another person in a
threatening manner with the specific intent to cause a reasonable
person fear of bodily harm is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by
imprisonment in a county jail for up to 30 days. For purposes of
this section, the laser scope need not be attached to a firearm.
(b) As used in this section, "laser scope" means a portable
battery-powered device capable of being attached to a firearm and
capable of projecting a laser light on objects at a distance.
(c) As used in this section, "laser pointer" means any hand held
laser beam device or demonstration laser product that emits a single
point of light amplified by the stimulated emission of radiation that
is visible to the human eye.



417.26. (a) Any person who aims or points a laser scope as defined
in subdivision (b) of Section 417.25, or a laser pointer, as defined
in subdivision (c) of that section, at a peace officer with the
specific intent to cause the officer apprehension or fear of bodily
harm and who knows or reasonably should know that the person at whom
he or she is aiming or pointing is a peace officer, is guilty of a
misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for a term
not exceeding six months.
(b) Any person who commits a second or subsequent violation of
subdivision (a) shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail
for not more than one year.



417.27. (a) No person, corporation, firm, or business entity of any
kind shall knowingly sell a laser pointer to a person 17 years of
age or younger, unless he or she is accompanied and supervised by a
parent, legal guardian, or any other adult 18 years of age or older.

(b) No student shall possess a laser pointer on any elementary or
secondary school premises unless possession of a laser pointer on the
elementary or secondary school premises is for a valid instructional
or other school-related purpose, including employment.
(c) No person shall direct the beam from a laser pointer directly
or indirectly into the eye or eyes of another person or into a moving
vehicle with the intent to harass or annoy the other person or the
occupants of the moving vehicle.
(d) No person shall direct the beam from a laser pointer directly
or indirectly into the eye or eyes of a guide dog, signal dog,
service dog, or dog being used by a peace officer with the intent to
harass or annoy the animal.
(e) A violation of subdivision (a), (b), (c), or (d) shall be an
infraction that is punished by either a fine of fifty dollars ($50)
or four hours of community service, and a second or subsequent
violation of any of these subdivisions shall be an infraction that is
punished by either a fine of one hundred dollars ($100) or eight
hours of community service.
(f) As used in this section, "laser pointer" has the same meaning
as set forth in subdivision (c) of Section 417.25.
(g) As used in this section, "guide dog," "signal dog," and
"service dog," respectively, have the same meaning as set forth in
subdivisions (d), (e), and (f) of Section 365.5.
As such, for the purpose it is advertised, this item is illegal for USE (if not sale) in California. Kingman, which is based in Baldwin Park, California, should know this already. That bugs me, it really does.
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Old 03-28-2009, 06:45 AM
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way to break it down man
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Old 03-28-2009, 01:32 PM
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You have me confused by what you mean......If you are talking about the "No corporation shall sell a laser pointer to a minor with a parent or guardian present........."
They are still not breaking the law. I could pretty much guarantee that a company that would produce such an item would infact look into to the laws especially in the state that they are based out of
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Old 03-28-2009, 02:41 PM
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Look at Section 417.25 more closely, XSiV.
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NOW i see what you are trying to say....got a lil confused with the your case with the rest of the sections.
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Old 03-28-2009, 05:43 PM
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Yup. The other ones are there to show the other things you cannot do with laser pointers in California.
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Don't you think this is geared more towards Law enforcement/military training? It seems to me that it would be a good fit for that.
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Don't you think this is geared more towards Law enforcement/military training? It seems to me that it would be a good fit for that.
Yes, I do, but I also know some stupid little kid'll come along and do one of the four things I listed, earning himself some vacation time in Sing-Sing. It just irks me that Kingman would actually sell these like this, just like the rest of the companies out there.
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