which marker

[TheDarkShadow]

I'm going to be buying a new marker pretty soon so here is what I'm looking at

Proto PMR
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...AAEOzq00w%2e13

Proto SLG (since it's less than the pmr I have more money for upgrades)
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...4AAAEVFsg9TvJ8

ICD Promaster
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...YAAAEYA4cww3Y8

WGP Trilogy SF Competition
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...oAAAEadar_XHPI

Smart Parts Epiphany
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...gAAAETZQhHL_8o

Smart Parts Ion (less than epiphany, so more money for upgrades)
http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...gAAAEBJ9hekf3f

I'm open to suggestions but I really don't want another spyder

[Hossy]

Id look used. For the amount you spend on those you can buy a older timmy that would be straight vicious or a PM6 or something of the sort-

thats just my opinion.

[HelpDeskHustler]

None of the above. RANT:

PMR: I've had efficiency and leaking issues with PMR's more than any other gun. That gun was on the workbench more than it was the field. Terrible resale.

SLG: It's a sear tripper, I've heard good things but I just wouldn't buy one. It's lacking some key parts and I'd rather have a different gun. TERRIBLE resale.

ICD promaster: It's no longer in production, no support. Don't bother. Some fanboy will be upset, but it's a dead gun don't buy it unless you get an absolutely awesome deal.

WGP trilogy: Someone else will be upset by this comment, but is there really even a point to shooting a semi autococker any more? Pump cockers are the only ones worth while, the trilogy is pretty bad for a semi cocker to begin with.

Epiphany: Expensive Ion, see ion.

Ion: Poorly executed, good design. I'd never buy a stock ion. I'd only accept one if I created it myself, those usually run up to about 300-400 before they become worthwhile, you might as well look at MY recomended guns.


I'd recommendfor a gun ONLY, this excludes getting a nitro tank etc)

0-100 range: rent/borrow
100-200: SLG, but I'd save up for g3
200-300: SLG + Ups, but I'd save up for g3
300-400: PMR, and some money for the field tech, Save up a bit more
400-500: DEFINATELY THE Dangerous power G3. Save up for this gun. It rips face
500-600: Protege. enough said, this gun rips.
600-700: protege + board
700-800: Vice
800-900: Vice + strippers
900-1000: Vice + more strippers
1000-1500: whatever. It really won't matter now.

[battlechaser]

Used Timmy.

[VS3 Sniper]

pmr or used timmy.

[xsvly-fat]

Used Timmy, or the PMR I liked my PMR but it was not that efficiencent and I like the my A-Bomb better so I would have to say a used Timmy

[ramen]

i voted based on the actual markers and not others.
I voted for the PMR because, if you could afford the PMR, get that over the slg.
The trilogy is pretty much a dead market.
Promasters are dying as well.
If you really wanted to go with the ion platform, go with the epiphany, I think you can find it for cheaper.

If it was a toss up between the epiphany or the pmr, the PMR would be my choice.

[Sandman_Bravo]

Vaporworks
http://www.paintballtrader.com/Xcart2k7/home.php
has taken over customer support for ICD. I just recently picked up a Promaster and I love it. I've put in a new valve and polished up the ram for better efficiency & slightly lower operating pressure.
There's still a live board for ICD too:
http://www.icd-owners.com/html/index.php?name=Forums
I got mine delivered to my door for a little over $100 and I think it's a sweet shooting gun.
http://www.spyder.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=15137
That's the post from the spring when I got it. I have to say that the attention to design detail and construction of the Promaster is well worth the new lower prices; no plastic or cheaply made parts on it. Besides, who cares if the factory stopped producing, does that make it any less of a quality marker?


Edit:
Here's one at $41 so far:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Indian-Creek-ICD...QQcmdZViewItem
or one with a tank & hopper for $50 so far:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Promaster-Paintb...QQcmdZViewItem
This one's super secret:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Lasoya-Proma...QQcmdZViewItem

[TheDarkShadow]

I was thinking the SLG because, on both the PMR and SLG I would probably get a metal back cap, new trigger, and new feedneck, so what's the point of spending the extra $75

and this trilogy has an e-frame (has semi-auto, full auto, and 2 ramping modes)

[battlechaser]

If you play your cards right, and get one with the right board even the older timmys can have the boards reflashed, my Species is a good example as it still has a Frenzy board in it, but it's been reflashed with newer code. So the stock board still supports PSP ramping, not to mention has all the settings to really need. I just have to figure out how to change the cap from 15bps to 13...

Not to mention, if you get a 2k5, there's isn't much you actually need to upgrade to have an awesome gun, really just huck some paint in it, toss on your tank and you're good.