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Old 10-15-2009, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Pros and Cons of .50

Cons
1. Poor Accuracy IF the friction coefficient out weights the change in the mass then the balls will not travel as far as we are used to. With this thought, since the mass and force of the ball have been lowered this leaves the door wide open for the industry changing the FPS limit for the .50 ball to a possibly much higher speed. If the FPS is changes then the balls would be able to travel the same distance.

2. New Guns If the industry as a whole moves towards .50 new guns will need to be made to fire the new ball. Eclipse has already shown that Guns can be retro fitted and rumor that dye is doing the same. While retro fitting a drop in "upgrade" will negate some of the Pros i have listed it is a great answer for those who do not have the money to buy new guns.

3. Paint Will bounce more With lower Force coming from a .50 ball that means that the ball may not break as often. GI Milsim (company spearheading the .50 move) has said to have found a "fix" to this problem. but not information has been released

4. Less Paint Means easier to wipe This is an idea I have heard quite a few people talk about and could be a potential problem but something I would like to point out. With each ball leaving less paint field will be much cleaner and the problem of rub will go down (if the field is properly maintained and cleaned by the refs)

"At short ranges the .62 pellets used to travel faster and thus would have a flatter trajectory over such ranges.
At long ranges they would drop off more due to less energy to overcome air resistance. Making it hard to be accurate at long range.
At even longer ranges they wouldn't reach targets that .68 cal pellets would with enough energy to break.
manike"

This is true and the exact idea i was talking about but there are 2 ways you can fix this problem. first and easiest is with the Mass being reduced then it would allow the industry to allow for a faster FPS limit which would bring the force back to the same as it was with the .68 only the ball will be traveling in a flatter faster trajectory. The second option is to find a heavier product to create the paint out of which would then increase the mass yet keep the friction on the ball down.


Remember your history folks. If smaller = better, then someone would have made a custom batch of smaller caliber paint for their own use and would have tried to sneak it in to some event to give them an advantage. In fact, a big name team did do exactly that, made some custom guns and a custom run of paint that gave them more range, more accuracy, and better breakage. The infamous Ironball used by Bob Long's Ironmen. And guess what, it wasn't smaller, it was a BIGGER and thus heavier .70 caliber ball.
Yes Bob had a great idea to gain competitive edge with this. But yet again looking at the equation i have referenced so many times is the M*V=F. due to the Velocity being the constant because the league would not let Bob let his guns shoot faster if he changed the mass of the ball he would gain more force which would make the balls go further and give his team an edge. Well in the case of .50 paint if the Mass has been reduced then we could raise the Velocity creating a better shot.


Who says paintball needs more innovation? Has baseball seen massive leaps in technology? Football? Basketball? Soccer? The answer is no. The growth and future of paintball has nothing to do with the size balls we shoot, it has to do with public perception of our sport.
With this statement you are comparing apples and oranges. We all would agree that paintball is pretty much in a word of its own due to the amount of design and thought that goes behind our gear, and also with how young of a sport it is. It is near impossible to compare Paintball to a regular "ball" sport.

Will my .68 gun be obsolete?
NO! the industry cannot afford to completely drop the .68 ball. There have been too many tippmanns and spyders sold to Joe Smoe who plays maybe once or twice a year (if that). If Joe were to walk into his local pro shop to buy paint and the person behind the counter were to say "I'm sorry we don't have those kind of paintballs any more. The industry has switched to a smaller ball rendering your gun obsolete. But you can spend $30 on a drop in "upgrade" and another $50 on a barrel that will allow you to play!" He will laugh at you leave the store and never come back again. which means that paintball will lose a HUGE range of its market. While Joe Smoe only plays two times a year his demographic of players are one of the largest this sport has. Not much money is made from the tourney series the money is in the recreational play who plays a few times a year with his friends. if paintball looses that customer they will be in a world of hurt. So I more see .50 as a "upgrade" if you want it. If it truly dose perform better than .68 than most of the top performers and the players that have the money will switch to it. if you don't then stay with what you got and stick with it, for those who are lucky enough to be able to afford to switch to .50 will have the advantage over the player who has .68

If it's not broken don't fix it!
This is the biggest response I have been hearing and it is the dumbest one I have heard also. If it's not broken? I don't know if any of you see the impact that the economy has made on this sport then please go look at some pictures of what paintball tournaments used to be (only a few years ago) and then look at them now, teams are steadily declining, weekend warrior players have turned into monthly warrior players, and the new players that were flocking to this sport have been disappearing. If I have never tried something before in my life and I hear that it hurts when you do it there is no way in hell I would pay 80+ dollars to try it out. I would just say forget this let me go play soccer, or football with friends! we need to make this sport cheaper to help new players come into the sport and fall in love with it. For those of you that are saying this sport is not broken you are terribly blind and need your eyes opened to the current economic state. Even companies like toys r'us are preparing for a tough Christmas season.


Now lastly let me give a brief history of myself. I have played paintball for 11 years now, I started out when I was only 10 and have followed the sport ever since. during high school it was simply a hobby of mine. something that I would do 2 or 3 times a year with friends, i only played 2 or 3 times a year due to being a kid and not having allot of money. I lived for those 2 or 3 days each year. I would dream about them and think about them until the next one came. Shortly after graduation high school I started working for Pev's Paintball. Pev's has become my home away from home. I love every person who is a part of, works for, and shops at Pev's I do all I can to represent the company to the best of my abilities and try all I can to better this sport and educate the general (non paintball) public about the sport. While working at Pev's I have played for Justice Kidz. That's right were bringing the Justice name back to turny paintball! (if you don't know who or what justice is pick up a old 10 man magazine and you will soon find out).


My closing statements, for those who are scared their guns will be obsolete don’t be, .68 will stay if anything .50 will only be a "upgrade" that you can have instead of the only option. If one day it does go to the only option then great (if it is truly better). Because this could potentially help the sport in a tremendous way making it better for all of us! Don’t always be scared of change, if we all were we all might still be thinking the world is flat!

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