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bamf-hacker 02-24-2007 06:52 PM

Review of the V-Force Grill...
 
So I needed more goggles, OK who am I kidding, I wanted new goggles. I got a pair of V-Force Grills and figured why not review them.

I got the box and in typical V-Force style the box is well made and protects the goggles. In the box comes, the goggles, visor, chin strap and a carry bag.

Grill in the box



Upon first looks the mask is well made and they even went as far as covering the V-Force logos with a clear film to protect them. The lenses were scratch free and crystal clear. The instructions are well laid out.

To install the visor there are 3 tabs that you push through the goggle foam frame and secure it with o-rings. The instructions suggest you remove the foam frame first to make it easier to install. I had no issues doing it with out taking the foam out.

Goggle Without the visor


Goggle With the visor


To remove the lense you need to take off the strap clips. They come out easy. Once the clip is out you remove the outside clips and they are well labeled with Right and Left. That makes sure you put them on the right side for re-assembly. Once the clips are out you just slide the lense out. Take all of about a minute to do.

Goggle Strap


Goggle Clips


Once the lense is off you can get to the locks for removing the foam frame. It is a nice feature especially for those of us that sweat a lot. The instructions show using a coin to twist the locks, but I used the outside clip to twist it. Once the lock is spun to the unlock position the foam comes right out. When it is time to re-install the foam and the lense, V-Force added a few tabs that make sure everything goes back in the right place. It goes back together just as easy and fast as it all comes apart.

Foam Locks


All the Goggle parts removed


The Grill also introduces a chin strap for those that get squirly when they play. There are two plastic loops on the face mask and the chin strap attaches with snaps. That makes it easy to remove if you don't want to use it.

Chin Strap


The included goggle bag is HUGE and in my opinion is a place V-Force can improve. It is made of light cloth and really does nothing more than keep the goggles clean. It is the same bag that comes with the Profilers.

Goggle Bag


I did a few of my own tests on the goggles and was pleasantly surprised.

First I put them on and wore them around the house for quite some time. They are extremely comfortable. No pulling on my head or squeezing feeling. I was able to see very well and the peripheral vision was good. Not as good as on my Profilers, but still very acceptable.

Next was the fog test. I got the shower going good and hot and made lots of steam. The goggles stayed in the room with me while I showered and I took my time. After about 20 min no signs of fog. All the mirrors in the room were fogged though. Once I was done with the shower, I put the goggles on and stayed in the steamy room with the same result zero fog. V-Force's anti fog coating works great.

Over all these are great goggles. If you need new goggles check them out. I wouldn't say to get them if you already have Profilers, but if you sweat a lot these are great. Keep an extra foam frame in your bag and swap them out in less than a minute in between rounds.

Coming soon will be pics of all my goggles side by side, I am trying to get a hold of a manikin head.

vikingshadow 02-25-2007 04:03 AM

Re: Review of the V-Force Grill...
 
Nice review! That's what I was looking for from these goggles. Very nice pictures - had the company used those, I'd have been less apt to call them ugly earlier this year! I still don't care for the looks that much, but you're making them look a bit better to me.

I notice you said that the peripheral vision isn't as good as your profilers - any particular reason why? Is the viewing area smaller? Compared to your profilers, how do they compare size-wise, weight-wise and overall? I don't have a store that close to me, and during the school year, I won't make it to a store until around April or May (Baseball season starts, so we go down to watch the Redhawks play....) so I don't have a chance to compare them myself.

I still would like to see them side by side with profilers so I'll still reserve judgment on them for myself.

Again, good review, as always!

Hob Hayward 02-25-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Review of the V-Force Grill...
 
I take it the lens isn't a two layer thermal lens, just has anti-fog coating?

vikingshadow 02-25-2007 03:48 PM

Re: Review of the V-Force Grill...
 
That's the way all the Vforce line is.

I've used Vforce for close to 4 years now - started with the shield, then went to my profilers, and I've been totally happy with the anti-fog lense from day one. In that whole time, I've only fogged once. And that was when I was crawling around after a rainstorm in the woods in a bunch of undergrowth on a steamy day....and I'd been washing the inside of the lense off when I played - big mistake!

bamf-hacker 02-25-2007 05:52 PM

Re: Review of the V-Force Grill...
 
OK Vike per your request in standard BAMF-HacKeR style.

Here are the pics of the two next to each other:


















vikingshadow 02-25-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Review of the V-Force Grill...
 
Good pictures!

hmmmm, so if I'm seeing this correctly, the only size difference is that the mouth goes more forward on the profiler and it's a bit rounder than the grill. Also, the lower back of the profiler is much shorter than the grill. It also appears that the viewing area on the profiler is MUCH bigger than the grill though, correct?

Man, next time I want to buy something, I'll get in contact with you first! :D

leed 02-25-2007 07:46 PM

Re: Review of the V-Force Grill...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vikingshadow
Good pictures!

hmmmm, so if I'm seeing this correctly, the only size difference is that the mouth goes more forward on the profiler and it's a bit rounder than the grill. Also, the lower back of the profiler is much shorter than the grill. It also appears that the viewing area on the profiler is MUCH bigger than the grill though, correct?

Man, next time I want to buy something, I'll get in contact with you first! :D

I think that's because they're sitting on a table, so the Profile looks like it's the same height. But Grillz are actually shorter, and they both poke out about the same amount. If you look, you can see that the Profiler is angled back a lot more than the Grill, mainly because the bottom side of it is steeper than the grill, so when you lay it down on that it's angled back, so you get the same height, more or less. You get the idea.

vikingshadow 02-26-2007 03:41 AM

Re: Review of the V-Force Grill...
 
Ah, I see. Good observation!

bamf-hacker 02-26-2007 04:54 AM

Re: Review of the V-Force Grill...
 
Yeah I need a manikin head. I set them on the table so the lense ends match up. I figure that would be the best way to compare them.

peeps 03-05-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Review of the V-Force Grill...
 
I got the grills a few weeks ago and they are great. They are by far the best investment I have made. I found them extremely comfortable and like the low profile design.


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