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marvin-martian 06-28-2012 08:55 PM

You are in a fight to the death with someone your size and can choose between a baseball bat and a knife as a weapon. What would you pick knowing that the other person gets what you don't choose?

bigred76 06-28-2012 10:49 PM

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Knife. Baseball bats are unwieldy compared to one. A shattered arm will heal, a knife into the chest cavity several times will not.

marvin-martian 06-28-2012 11:50 PM

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Agree with knife. You can get inside easily and can even absorb a bat swing if that should happen.

shunut 06-29-2012 06:12 AM

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You can strike from further away with a baseball bat.

vikingshadow 06-29-2012 10:51 AM

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Distance is key in my opinion - a knife requires close proximity which, if the opponent is smart, can end up not so safe. You can end up with major head and vital organ damage with the bat. Plus, you have to be quick because you won't be able to stay in close for very long and have to be VERY accurate hitting something that will stop your opponent.

A bat can be used to crush, jab, and push. Disarm your opponent by breaking an arm or hand, or shoulder, or anything, and you see yourself with both a bat AND a knife!

I choose bat.

marvin-martian 06-29-2012 11:03 AM

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My issue with the bat is that it is more unwieldy and easier to be pushed to the side. If the knife waits for a poke or swing or something, any opening, he can rush in and close the distance to where the bat is useless. You can just juke and bob your way past the bat.

bigred76 06-29-2012 12:55 PM

Marv is right, you can deflect the bat with your forearm and sustain minimal damage while moving in close with the knife. The bat takes a more obvious move to get it ready to strike, so the knife user also has a lead time on top of a quicker weapon.

shunut 06-30-2012 06:20 AM

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You can deflect a bat with your arm and sustain minimal damage? Really? I guess that all depends on who is swinging the bat and what type of bat it is. Deflect a Louisville Slugger swung by someone like Albert Pujols and tell me you have sustained minimal damage. Heck, when I was 9-10 I hit my brother in the head with a full size, wooden bat, completely on accident, he walked up behind me as I was swinging, caught him on the back swing. Knocked him out and he ended up needing 8 stitches, still has the scar. I was like 4'6" and probably weighed 70 lbs.

I would love to swing a bat at your guys forearm and see how minimal the damage is and how easily you are able to deflect it and continue fighting.

marvin-martian 06-30-2012 07:23 AM

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Implying a swing like that is instantaneous and im going to stand still for it and not move in to make it less effective. Implying in a fight to the death im going to give up with a broken forearm. I know bats cause damage, I caught a backswing when I was 8ish at a game in the middle of my back and I dropped.

UKwithPride 06-30-2012 10:54 AM

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But you're also implying that you will be able to dodge the swing. There's too many factors involved lying underneath the initial choice of bat or knife. Even if you get past the swing of the bat, are you confident that you're going to strike a critical point using that knife? With a stab or a slice? What happens after that initial strike if one entry doesn't take that person down? Now you just increased the guys adrenaline and he's about to go PCP mode on you and smash your face in. I can see avoiding this if you're trained in close quarters combat, but for the average person, is the knife really the better choice?

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