View Full Version : need some help

01-21-2006, 10:52 AM
im new to the electra 05 and i have a few questions. im looking to upgrade to compressed air, whats a good tank to buy, and does the electra handle low pressure (less the say 850psi output). also, i was wondering if anyone else has had trouble with the gun switching back to semi auto from the other fiering modes. third question, does anyone elses hand grip not quite fit right? mine has a gap on the side with the battery. other then that, what are some good upgrades for not too much money, im rekindling my love of the game and want a good set up to play with.

thanks guys!

set up
electra 05
halo B
20oz C02
stock barell

01-21-2006, 11:01 AM
the difference in pressure is usually not that much different.
for it switching back, open up your frame, and there should be a red jumper, if it is loose, you may be able to switch modes, but it will go back to semi this is the tourney lock, removing this jumper does not allow you to leave semi auto. so if it is loose, press it back down. if not, your battery might be low.
your grips might not fit right because, well, they're plastic and plastic gets bent.
for upgrades go here: The Bible (http://www.ottersccustoms.com/spyder.html). this should give you all the info you need, and if you still have questions, ask.

01-21-2006, 12:01 PM
Tank wise there are many good tank manufactures. A couple of the top companies are Crossfire and Pure Energy (PMI), usually these can both be found for a decent price. You will however need and HP tank. There are 3 basic types of compressed air tanks, LP (low pressure) which have a output pressure usually no higher than 400-500psi, HP (high pressure) which usually have an output pressure around 800-850psi and then adjustables which you can adjust their output pressure. Stock Spyders operate around 800psi so you need the HP tank. Plus if decide to lower the operating pressure of your Spyder to make it more effiecent or upgrade to a higher end gun that requires a lower operating pressure you add a regulator you can adjust your pressure using that and your tank will be much more versitile.

I think smurf covered the rest for you.

01-21-2006, 05:33 PM
Well.. since your spyder is stock ... it should have to run on a high pressure tank ... you could probably get a PMI fixed 72/3k for about ... 64 bucks here (http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=U78B6zUNNmcBgnbfvqHBQz-rW5LEIgHRyB4=?ProductID=OAKsFAY7hlsAAAD5MtFJBmGq). The, grip problem could always be because your battery isn't in right. You could get an aggitating hopper like an eggy for around 40 bucks used on pbnation .. then you could get a torpedo (regulator) for about 35 on pbnation .. but i have found a few for 30 .. then an assault block for 25 (VA) ... also you could switch to HPA

01-21-2006, 11:37 PM
1 more thing....is N2 the same as high pressure air?...i think im leaning twords a crossfire 45/4500

01-22-2006, 03:56 AM
Yup, N2 and HPA (high pressure air) are one in the same and that is an excellent choice in tanks, you'll be very happy. Just a fair warning though, there were some tanks that were recalled by crossfire a while back. So, if you buy one used make sure you check the E# first. Go here, it has all the info you need about Crossfire tanks (http://www.crossfireinc.com/)

01-22-2006, 10:08 AM
well seeing as how i cant find a crossfire 45/45 anywhere for under 200, i think ill go with the pmi 45/45..i hear good things thanks for the help guys

01-22-2006, 01:54 PM
hah yup no problem just ask questions anytime you want

01-22-2006, 03:22 PM
would it be bad for my gun if I left my HPA tank w/preasure on it all the time?

01-22-2006, 03:37 PM
no it will be fine. the only bad thing is is might have lost a little pressure but thats it.

01-22-2006, 03:56 PM

01-22-2006, 06:59 PM
Yes. And very stupid. Do not keep an air source attached to a marker because it might just accidentally mis-fire and that would not be pretty. Also, it might blow a seal because the o-rings DO dry with use. I have a whole bunch more reasons, but my fingers would die before I got them all out.

01-23-2006, 02:41 PM
oh darn
well if I had it in a bag and i oil my seals after evry use would it be ok? i dont think i will now any way...just curious

01-23-2006, 05:26 PM
no it would be best just to leave a power source off while it is not in use

01-23-2006, 05:35 PM
It's pretty darn easy to take the tank off. Much easier than replacing a missing eye because your marker accidentally went off.

01-23-2006, 06:21 PM
That would be a pain. tell you what get a CP on/off valve for ur tank and then u could.

01-23-2006, 06:33 PM
yeah i dont wana that bad...just woundering. I heard that if you put a few drops of oil evry now and then in that little hole where the air goes in. its good for the air system. is this true??

01-23-2006, 06:52 PM
Good for the internals. It oils everything inside your marker, but you have to take off your barrel and hopper otherwise you'll get oil in/on them. Not fun. :waytogo:

01-23-2006, 07:15 PM
how much oil do u recomend?

01-23-2006, 07:19 PM
4-5 drops is what I do. But remember, if you have a regulator on your marker you need to read the directions and make sure you can do that.

01-24-2006, 10:50 AM
umm my electra is stock...the expantion chamber isnt a reg is it

01-24-2006, 11:21 AM
Nope, a reg controls the air pressure, all an x-chamber does is let CO2 expand

01-25-2006, 10:01 AM
ok so if you have an HPA tank then the chamber dosent do any thing?

01-25-2006, 05:43 PM
nope, yeah bigred's right .. if you keep the pressure in all the time .. you'll get loose screws after a while... and you'll break parts in your gun ... deffinetely not good