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adrianm1188
01-16-2006, 07:24 PM
Im thinking about purchasing one of these babies.

Anyone have experience with them or fun facts? lol

http://www.chipleymachine.com/store/images/CCMss-25_m.jpg


It cost a lot though...

My package right now which includes
CCM ss25
SC feed - wevopaintball.com
13ci.cu tank

this runs me about 622$

Drefish99
01-16-2006, 07:25 PM
Why not get a Phantom? Marker looks tight though... For that price I would look at a Phantom.

adrianm1188
01-16-2006, 07:34 PM
No idea.

I see them as low end...

QAZ123
01-16-2006, 07:35 PM
There nice I've never shot one before the but quality is awesome! If you have the money and are willing to spend that much on a pump I say go for it. Might want to check out all your option's (carter,phantom,sterling)though!

JB.

Ares
01-16-2006, 07:36 PM
recon by fire has a ccm pump, pm him about his

QAZ123
01-16-2006, 07:40 PM
No idea.

I see them as low end...
Phantoms are just the bombdiggity man!

JB.

adrianm1188
01-16-2006, 07:44 PM
Phantoms are just the bombdiggity man!

JB.

See what i mean?

jk :p

tigerdave714
01-16-2006, 08:37 PM
First of all I dont know what you're talking about with that "low end" mess... but neither the Phantom nor the CCM are low end. There is such a thing as a low-end pump... but these two are both in a class all their own.

So the CCM SS25... I had the pleasure of shooting the "Prototype" version of this gun before it was released on the market (its good to have met Wevo in person). Same super-sweet pump stroke that I have on my CCM'd sniper. The autotrigger is nice for direct-feed hopper setup. The wire detent works well enough. The frame is more comfy than any frame I've ever handled. Long story short... its the sweetest cocker-based pump marker ever made.

I have to say though... comparing this to a Phantom isn't exactly like comparing apples to oranges. Its more like bowling balls to microwaves. They are two totally different animals. They work differently. They handle differently. Both are amazing in their own right. I would suggest test driving both (or the closest thing possible) before you make a decision.

Concerning the high sticker price, you can stretch that out over time if you want. Get the basic marker package now. Pick up the carbon fiber barrel kit later. The stock feed a little later. etc...

kevdupuis
01-17-2006, 06:19 AM
I play with a couple that have a pair of SS25's and they love them. The closest I've come is a camo J2 pump, which I almost fell in love with, that Dennis Ashley let me try when I was last in Chicago, all I can say is,"nice working markers".
Although I like my old pump, (Ram 68) I can't wait for the new Sterlings to be released.

metromuppetmower
01-17-2006, 10:41 AM
have you looked at carters? i have a carter buzzard and man i love it(you can get one custom ordered from carter himself for the price your paying for that cocker!! the pump stroke on a carter is out of this world.

phatphil
01-17-2006, 11:22 AM
You could build a Sniper/Cocker Pump for around $200 +/- $50 with a CCM kit. The only thing you won't be able to have is the interchangable breech to go from stock class to a hopper.

adrianm1188
01-17-2006, 12:40 PM
So fill me in on this carter buzzard...

Pros and cons compared to the ss25

tigerdave714
01-17-2006, 01:50 PM
The Carter is another "different animal". Its similar to a Phantom in design and internals. Amazing craftsmanship, fresh from the hands of one of one of the greatest airsmiths in the industry. Smooth pump stroke... a little heavier than a Phantom. Its definitely a tournament-quality pump. Blowfish and a few other pro pump-friendly teams use them almost exclusively.

ttink
01-17-2006, 04:40 PM
I think the buzzard will get a little better efficiency on 12 grams, but correct me if im wrong.

tigerdave714
01-17-2006, 06:36 PM
Yeah. The SS25 wasn't meant to be a stock class marker. It was designed to be a super-stock or open class pump (auto trigger, direct feed, bulk tank, etc...). The Carter was designed to be a stock class pump (10rnd feed and stock class 12gram ASA) but its easily adapted to use a 3.5oz CO2 tank if necessary.

metromuppetmower
01-18-2006, 06:13 AM
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=carter0039rr.jpg



theres a picture of my carter....i think most will agree they are the ferrari of pumps. they are pretty 12 gram eff. If you buy a new carter it will be made custom to your order(you can pick color,model,pump handle,stock, etc.)
and it has auto trigger like that ccm ss25. or you can get a used one(that how i got mine) . i definitly recommend them and as ppl said there are pro pump teams that use them.

QAZ123
01-18-2006, 06:41 AM
I'd say if you could get to a pump event and see if you can use some of the different types of marker's! Get on stockclasspaintball.com's message board and see if there are any pump gathering's in your area and see if you can check out some of there gear as it's all going to come down to preferance!

JB.