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tampaimpact16
12-23-2006, 07:30 PM
OK well first let me state that that i apolagize for posting so many threads...
but ugh anyways... I was cleaning my gun, and i was removing the back plate..

And i wsa putting it all back together when i realized i couldnt fing that black rubber washer!!!

Idk if its stuck in there, but i surely dont see it...

DO i need this part??? What happens if i dont have it??? If i need it, where do i need to go to get a new one? they expensive???

i cant belive i lost it!!!

Nenkitsune
12-23-2006, 07:37 PM
i found that in the long run, you'll damage your velocity adjuster, and that if you have a force feed hopper, you'll get massive feeding problems since the bolt is allowed to move back futher. it's also really loud. if you pull the striker out, the washer comes out along with it (the black thing) i'd say that you need it.

Hossy
12-23-2006, 07:39 PM
i think your talking about the striker buffer,

yes its important, they shouldnt be that expensive....accually theres probably one in a kit you can get.

flashlight will help you see inside it :rolleyes:

DRAGON
12-23-2006, 07:51 PM
Did you look inside the bottom tube? I have seen tons of people that mistakenly stuck it in front of the striker and wonder why the marker will not recock -

bigred76
12-23-2006, 10:31 PM
:yeahthat: If you end up not finding it, I'd advise you to get another one from your local pro shop. Bad things can happen if you do not have it in there, and I personally don't like those odds.

druid
12-24-2006, 06:20 AM
New Striker buffer if you click me (http://www.skanline.com/pages-productinfo/category-118_898_1031/product-473/paintball-gun-upgrades-spyder-oem-accessories-kingman-kingman-spyder-striker-buffer.html?zenid=4d7bdfb8bf8fe8cf854a4658008650e3 )

Nenkitsune
12-24-2006, 07:48 AM
ouch, 4.50? lol i still have mine, but i made one out of duct tape when i lost it. i made it in such a way that it won't go any more than it absolutly needs to to catch teh sear. maybe like 5mm of end play XP it helped a lot with my qloader multi-feeding and chopping

MVS1
12-24-2006, 10:10 AM
ouch, 4.50? lol i still have mine, but i made one out of duct tape when i lost it. i made it in such a way that it won't go any more than it absolutly needs to to catch teh sear. maybe like 5mm of end play XP it helped a lot with my qloader multi-feeding and chopping
I'd really like to see a picture of this if you have one

druid
12-24-2006, 10:15 AM
MVS....click the link I provided?

Nenkitsune
12-24-2006, 10:37 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/half_breed/DSC02282.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/half_breed/DSC02302.jpg
it's a bit thicker than the stock buffer, and it's shaped funny (the bulge is where the slot is on my gun between the bolt and striker) the ID is bigger than what you see in the picture, and fits around the spring pretty well. i'd say, your best bet if you can't get a normal one, or you want a thicker one for whatever reason, is to cut a piece of rubber hose.

tampaimpact16
12-24-2006, 02:36 PM
alright. well the sucker is stuck in there... any idea on how to get it out?? please help.

did i put it in wrong? i put the buffer in first, then the stricker then the spring... is that bad???

well ne ways need to take it out first
ty

shunut
12-24-2006, 04:32 PM
A pencil or something like that should be able to get it out. I might be easier if you take off the VA and take out the valve.

tampaimpact16
12-24-2006, 06:16 PM
how do i do that?? does it even need to come out??

Nenkitsune
12-24-2006, 07:33 PM
it has to come out. it's supposed to go, striker, spring/buffer/shim (black stick thing) then velocity adjuster. stick a pencil in it and see if you can fish it out

druid
12-24-2006, 08:05 PM
use an Oring pick if you have one just be careful not to scratch the inner wall of the chamber. And yes it MUST come out

bigred76
12-24-2006, 08:06 PM
Hahaha, if you don't take it out, your marker won't work right. Just get a dowel or a pencil as Shunut sugested and fish the bugger out. Be careful to not scratch the body, though!

Edit: Dang Druid, great minds think alike!

tampaimpact16
12-25-2006, 07:11 PM
its like jammed in there... damn.. this sucks. lol

MVS1
12-26-2006, 11:23 AM
Nenkitsune...that's probably the most creative thing I have ever seen, glad it works for ya...

MVS1
12-26-2006, 12:04 PM
its like jammed in there... damn.. this sucks. lol one thing you maybe able to do if you don't want to take the vertical adapter (VA) and valve out is try taking your trigger frame off and see if you can get to it that way, there is a slot in the bottom of the bodies frame that may gain you access to the buffer. If this doesn't work then at least your part of the way through with moving the internals (valve and pin).
Here are the steps for removing the V/A and valve:
1. If you have already removed your trigger frame move to step 2, if not, Remove 2 screws that hold your drop forward to the bottom of the grip frame.
2. Using allen key supplied with your parts kit for the marker remove three allen key screws, 2 for the trigger frame and 1 that holds the VA in place.
!!!NOTE!!!when removing screw for the VA maintain pressure against the VA, there is spring tension that holds your cup seal and valve pin to the valve and if you don't keep pressure on it when the screw is removed it might pop out on you!!!
3. Remove the slot-headed brass screw on the bottom of your marker body this holds the valve in place. DO NOT forget to remove that before you try pushing the valve out once you have the vertical adapter off.
4. Once the VA is off and set screw is removed; use a pencil, wood dowel or similiar item to push the valve out the front of the body. It will only go out the front. Since your buffer is in the way you will need to use something small enough to pass through the hole in the buffer without damaging it.
5. Now that you have everything out of the way, push the buffer out the back of the body.
While you have everything apart take a look at all your o-rings, if they look damaged or flat go ahead and replace. Unless you damage them during disassembly they should be fine. Good luck, if you encounter a problem stop and ask for advice here.