View Full Version : raven primal $100!!

01-14-2006, 08:04 PM
black raven primal
black icd hpr
plain jane asa (pictured)
black odyssey gas thru grip
black odyssey asa reg

gun is in excellent physical condition. minor wear from normal play but nothing bad at all. the trigger is much lighter than i expected when i got it. it's very fast & easy to walk. eyes work great also.

NOW, so far i have been unable to chrono it above around 250fps. the last time i chrono'd it wasn't shooting over 185fps give or take. i have been all through the gun & everything looks to be in order. i do not know why it won't shoot up to speed. it may be something minor that i'm overlooking. no leaks or anything like that. it shoots great, just not at a hight enough velocity. i've fooled with it a good bit but so far it's stumped me & since i don't really need it i'm just gonna pass it on to some one who has a little more patience than me :) .



$100 shipped



feedback thread - http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=202064. not good enough? go here http://www.paintball4ms.com/index.php?sid=1d873d50a6c2fa46a968d05fe7423e37 & ask about me. still not good enough? eh...can't help you past that. i guess if some one is seriously interested i can pm them my phone #. i've done it before so it's no big deal.

the odyssey asa style reg wouldn't fit on the dovetail of the 32* drop (anno is extremely thick...wouldn't fit on a couple of other drops & rails i have either) so i replaced the odyssey gas thru with an icd hpr (better than the odyssey anyway) & just put a plain ol' asa on it. there's no macroline in the pic because i didn't have a piece long enough.

01-14-2006, 08:42 PM
Pics would be nice. I may possibly be interested -

01-14-2006, 08:46 PM
pics to come soon.

i should be able to take some tomorrow.

01-14-2006, 09:00 PM
So what happened to the original parts? This now has a bottom line reg? What exactly have you done to it to try to resolve the prob? Like what have you removed and reinstalled and so forth? -

01-14-2006, 09:05 PM
Pics phatphil@gmail.com (when you get them)

01-14-2006, 09:16 PM
dragon - i have taken the lpr apart several times, taken the valve out, taken the noid off to see if there was some blockage in the air passages through the body, tried 3 different hprs, cleaned & lubed everything. all the o-rings are good & i've tried several new batteries. the noid doesn't leak until the lpr is up around 120 psi & it does go up and down when adjusted. valve stem, cup seal, everything is good. i just don't know what's wrong with it. yes, the bolt is in right side up & yes, the ram sleeve is in correctly (holes on bottom). it's probably nothing but it's escaping me so far.

only stock part i have is the barrel. i traded for the primal & the original parts didn't come with it. it now has an odyssey gas thru grip & an odyssey asa style hpr.

phatphil - as soon as i take pics i'll post them in this thread.

01-14-2006, 10:17 PM
So let's see.............it used to have a CF Doolie and you traded it out for the Odyssey reg? You first tried $175 then $150 and had no hits at all. First you said it shoots at 176fps, then 185fps about 1.5 weeks ago. Now you come here and say it shoots at 250fps. Does it still have the 14" Boomy? Is the bolt still loose? I seriously doubt I'd send money for this unless you sent it to me first to check out if I did decide to offer. Kinda sounds like you made a bad trade to begin with. If you don't mind me asking, what did you trade for in the first place? -

01-15-2006, 05:21 PM
dragon - the last time i chrono'd it it was shooting at around those speeds you mentioned. i have however chrono'd it in the 250's. the last time i chrono'd it i was using a cheapo battery. whether or not that was why it was shooting so much lower than the first time i can't say. as far as the bolt goes, i wouldn't say it's necessarily loose. there is a little play with the back cap but the bolt will not slide forward on it's on so it doesn't seem like a problem. since i've never had any experience with primals i don't know if that's normal or not. all i know is the bolts in the em1's i had were a little tighter. i have a centerflag doolie & a 14" boomstick. those were included when i was asking $175. for $100 they aren't. i traded an odyssey o3e for it. $100 isn't all that much money but it's more than i want to risk. if you think i'm trying to scam you then just don't deal with me. i think my pbn feedback speaks for itself though.

EVERYONE ELSE - please check the first post for pics & to see that the thread has been edited.

01-15-2006, 05:54 PM
Did I say SCAM lol? I just asked some simple questions about the history of your posts trying to sell this marker. If you saw me post 3 or more different velocities about a seemingly troubled marker and were thinking of purchasing it, would you just throw your money my way or possibly want to make sure it was running at the stated velocity before hand? Now you've gone and changed it from the configuration initially posted. Hmmmmm.....I suppose I will humbly bow out of this one, thanks for your honest response - :rolleyes:

01-15-2006, 06:26 PM
you never said the word scam but i just got the impression that you thought i was being less than honest about everything. if me changing the configuration is a problem i'll gladly give the odyssey gas thru, reg & the 32* drop but the asa won't fit on the drop which is why i changed it to begin with. you're better off with the icd reg imo but it's cool.

01-15-2006, 06:41 PM
I'm thinking about it... If I pick up more money than expected for the Alias, you'll probably get it... I'll talk to you about it when the time comes

01-15-2006, 07:18 PM
sounds good man. just let me know. say, have we dealt before? i may be thinking of some one else.

01-15-2006, 07:38 PM
I used to be RazorXCustoms... I don't recall if we did or not...

01-15-2006, 09:38 PM
Was the velocity with the ICD reg and at what pressure? ICD regs are pretty decent........mine got +/- 2.6 fps on my FS7.

01-15-2006, 09:45 PM
No, he changed the reg after I posted. That's what we were chatting about. He had an Odyssey BL reg on it when initially posting here. On PBN he had the Dooley on it. Now he's changed it again because he says the drop didn't fit right or something -

01-16-2006, 06:11 AM
pm sent.

01-16-2006, 04:57 PM
timbertiger20 - acutally the regs i've tried it with were an evil detonator, centerflag doolie & a pmi thor. all with pretty much the same results. i haven't shot it with the icd reg though. it's just a spare i had.

DRAGON - i believe i've explained this already but the reason it's not coming with the centerflag doolie that was listed in the pbn thread is because in that thread i was asking more. now that i'm only asking $100 i don't want to include that. as for why i changed it from an odyssey reg to the icd, it's because the odyssey reg would not slide onto the 32* drop. it also wouldn't slide onto another drop & rail that i have. the anno is extremely thick. i explained that already as well. i don't know how much clearer i can make it but if you still need some clarification feel free to pm me. i fail to see how it matters either way. i posted that i edited the thread including pics so it's not like i'm saying it's going to come with the odyssey or centerflag reg & really intend on giving the icd. i don't know what the deal is here but though you haven't come right out & accused me of being dishonest it seems like it's in between the lines. maybe it's just me & if that's the case i apologize.

evilballa - got your pm.


the primal is pending to Striker as of now. i'll post one way or the other once i know for sure.

01-16-2006, 05:44 PM

thanks to all who posted.