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QAZ123
01-12-2006, 05:37 PM
Alrighty I got my critical frame on everything look's great it's a gorgeous marker but I air it up and I have a leak. Checked the hoseline fitting's they are fine. I can hear the leak down the barrel and also if I put my ear up to the feedneck then press down on the bolt pin it goes away almost!

I think I just need to lube everything really! That's the next question. What kind of lube should I use on this gun? I've only had it at the field once and then let it sit till I got the fund's to 2k5 it but I guess I never thought about lube. So what should I pick up for it?

Thanks for the help!

JB.

bigred76
01-12-2006, 05:55 PM
Manual. (http://www.boblong.com/pdf/alias_manual.pdf) I'd use SlickHoney personally...And it's really easy to make yourself. I'll PM you the recipe I have if you wish... ;)

spyderimagine01
01-12-2006, 06:00 PM
Manual. (http://www.boblong.com/pdf/alias_manual.pdf) I'd use SlickHoney personally...And it's really easy to make yourself. I'll PM you the recipe I have if you wish... ;)


You dont want to know what I thought when you said that...:p

chubb0rz
01-12-2006, 06:04 PM
dow33 (shocker lube), dow55 or slik honey

I'd check your orings on the ram. If it still leaks it would be good to take it apart and lube the poppet and check those orings.

Drefish99
01-12-2006, 06:15 PM
Check the poppet orings. Lube them or replace them. If it still leaks check those Ram orings and do the same. When I had my project timmy all together it did the same and it drove me nuts. I ended up breaking it down to the basics no frame and just the Timmy and all its airfittings to find the source of the leak and it ended up being 2 leaks. The front barb fitting on the LPR housing and also the back oring on the ram. Fiddleing with it is the key.

QAZ123
01-12-2006, 06:24 PM
Alrighty thanks guy's! I'll probably pick up Dow 55 or slick honey this weekend at a local proshop along with a set of grip's to go with the tadao board!

Thanks a bunch,

JB.

*EM1-Master*
01-12-2006, 06:36 PM
Check the poppet orings.
Was my initial thought....

shutter_elite
01-12-2006, 07:24 PM
check your poppit, oring on poppit, use dow 55 !! has never steered wrong since i've been using it. check ram o-rings if that doesnt solve your problem

geeZus
01-12-2006, 09:22 PM
My poppet o-ring was horrible, but never caused a leak. It caused drop off. I'd lube the ram o-rings, then replace them if necessary. Its alot easier to check the ram o-rings than the poppet, so do that first.

USE DOW55. NOTHING ELSE. dow55 is an o-ring swellent and seals better than dow33 or slick honey. Bob Long himself says to use dow55 on the o-rings, and tri-flow on the bolt. I used it and had no problems at all. If you can't get dow55, get dow33 and gold cup, and mix a little gold cup with the dow33, to help swell the o-rings.

bigred76
01-12-2006, 09:34 PM
tri-flow on the bolt.
Tri-Flow=SlickHoney. ;)

geeZus
01-12-2006, 09:43 PM
Tri-Flow=SlickHoney. ;)
Not even close...NOOB!:D

Tri-flow is a liquid grease used on bike chains. Slick honey is a gelitan. I've owned both, and there is a HUGE difference.

bigred76
01-12-2006, 09:53 PM
Sorry, I should be more specific. Tri-Flow + Vaseline=Slick Honey. What now, nube man? :smirk:

geeZus
01-12-2006, 09:55 PM
I am still right, and you are still wrong. And Bob Long still says to use dow55 and Tri-flow...nothing else.

Chris - 2839842848508358934508435894385485
Tim - 0

bigred76
01-12-2006, 09:57 PM
If he says to use Tri-Flow then he would be saying to use Slick Honey, would he not? OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! !

:p

Chris - 1
Tim - 2

geeZus
01-12-2006, 10:13 PM
If he says to use Tri-Flow then he would be saying to use Slick Honey, would he not? OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! !

:p

Chris - 1
Tim - 2

Not at all. You aren't even making sense now. Face it, you can never win against me. That's like saying if a recipe says to use chocolate chips, then it must be saying to use chocolate chip cookies also. I got a feeling that sticking chocolate chip cookies in brownie mix would really mess up your brownies.

bigred76
01-12-2006, 11:04 PM
It wouldn't mess the brownies up.....it'd be an interesting experiment though...:questionicon:

QAZ123
01-13-2006, 04:25 AM
How did we go from timmy lube to brownies?:confused:

I'm gonna grab whatever they have at the field surely they will have some dow 55. Hey dow 55 isn't called anything else in the non-paintball world is it?

JB.

geeZus
01-13-2006, 05:30 AM
dow33 is shocker lube, dow55 is just dow55. I think you were getting those mixed up.

QAZ123
01-13-2006, 05:32 AM
dow33 is shocker lube, dow55 is just dow55. I think you were getting those mixed up.
Yeah I was. Must still have my shocker on my mind!

JB.

*EM1-Master*
01-13-2006, 09:25 AM
Sorry, I should be more specific. Tri-Flow + Vaseline=Slick Honey. What now, nube man? :smirk:
Wrong again, silly :p Vaseline is petroleum based... Better not be putting any of that in your gun :p
Evan(Tim2): 19
Chris: 11259125312514321
Tim: 0

Drefish99
01-13-2006, 09:31 AM
DOW CORNING(R) 55 ADDITIVE (http://www.dowcorning.com/applications/product_finder/pf_details.asp?l1=006&pg=00000261&prod=02365073&type=PROD) - http://www.dowcorning.com/applications/product_finder/pf_details.asp?l1=006&pg=00000261&prod=02365073&type=PROD
They use it on Morotcycles and also might find it at an Army surplus.

FredPo
01-13-2006, 10:29 AM
I would advise against using Tri-Flow on the bolt. Since the bolt is connected to the ram, this allow the tri-flow to drop down into the ram area and when tri-flow mixes with dow 55, it weakens the grease and creates a mess. From experience I know, not just saying it. I never lube my bolt and it works great. AS for lube, Geezus is right, use nothing but Dow55 to lube the entire gun, do not use slick honey or dow33.
As for the leak, I'm guessing it's the cupseal, the front ram oring (smaller oring), or the ram sleeve orings. First thing I would do is change the poppet and lube the poppet oring. Then if it still leaks, lube and change the front ram oring. If the leak persists, I would then say it's the ram sleeve oring which sucks because you have to disassemble the whole marker just to get out the ram sleeve. Let me know if you fix the problem. Later.

Fred

QAZ123
01-13-2006, 10:32 AM
Well I'm not doing a darn thing this weekend cause of this broke toe so hopefully I can pick up some dow55 locally and lube everything. If that don't fix it.... well... stay tuned in as I'm sure I'll come hollaring!

Hoping to pick up the grip's also this weekend!

JB.