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Drefish99
10-25-2006, 08:11 AM
Its 35+ BPS, weights one pound w/ batteries, and 230 ball capacity, comes in LED or LCD and 9v and 18v models.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n98/backsidex/fasta.jpg

The speed is yours. Spyder is proud to introduce the new Fasta Electronic Loader. The Fasta provides both a sleek aerodynamic design and lightning fast game play with an impressive 35+ BPS. This is the loader that picks up the slack of the other loaders promising to be the fastest. The Fasta is ultra light weighing in at one poind with the batteries installed! The loader has an impressive 230-ball capacity and is easy to reload with the quick reload lid. The revolutianry feed ramp reduces popcorning in the feed neck which enables the quickest load imagined. The Fasta is available in LED and LCD screen as well as 9v and 18v; Both come with low battery indicators. With the LCD screen the player can stay on top of the game with an advanced timer.
Enjoy your speed.

rafb86
10-25-2006, 08:48 AM
hmmm not bad at all!!! i might have to pick one up. any word as to when they come out and the price range???

shunut
10-25-2006, 08:55 AM
Looks like a TSA, but nice to see Kingman producing some decent products and getting back in the game.

marvin-martian
10-25-2006, 10:14 AM
old news: http://www.spyder.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=5111

Drefish99
10-25-2006, 10:34 AM
Yeah I donno what name they are going with but it is pretty much teh same loader.

claustrophobia9
10-25-2006, 10:35 AM
fugly, and the feed door is too horizontal.

shunut
10-25-2006, 10:36 AM
feed door is too horizontal.


agreed

phatphil
10-25-2006, 10:54 AM
That reminds me of a Ricochet and Halo TSA.

RomeNYRR
10-25-2006, 12:19 PM
i'd buy it... lets see if we can dig up some more info on it.

Hob Hayward
10-25-2006, 12:41 PM
Looks like revvy style plastic which means no colored shells :(.

I dislike the feed door, and the fact that its the second hopper I hear about 5 days after I buy a new hopper.

DRAGON
10-25-2006, 12:56 PM
Says they're called the Torpedo in my 2006 Spyder dealer catalog. They are made by Ricochet for Kingman so I suppose they should look similar to one lol -

Hob Hayward
10-25-2006, 02:20 PM
By ricochet?! I really hope they have a good loader system, an that it doesn't lie about feedrate like the Apache does.

Ace24
10-25-2006, 02:27 PM
Didnt you hear? Its 50 BPS anti gravity fed. So the balls are floating around in your hopper like they are on the moon untill a vortex at the bottom of the neck opens, loading a ball into your gun. :)

08Lud08
10-25-2006, 04:13 PM
Didnt you hear? Its 50 BPS anti gravity fed. So the balls are floating around in your hopper like they are on the moon untill a vortex at the bottom of the neck opens, loading a ball into your gun. :)lol

Daddy360
10-25-2006, 04:50 PM
lmao wow..anti gravity feed. so has anyone found the price on this loader yet? looks really good, i would buy it.

pbfreak3221
10-25-2006, 04:52 PM
Personally myself I am interested in the new DraXxus loader.

Theheroguy
10-25-2006, 06:28 PM
Didnt you hear? Its 50 BPS anti gravity fed. So the balls are floating around in your hopper like they are on the moon untill a vortex at the bottom of the neck opens, loading a ball into your gun. :)

that made no since what so ever

druid
10-25-2006, 06:44 PM
actually...the board is voice-encoded to recognize "GO! GO! GO!" and instanely beams the paintball into the breech. Star Trek FTFMW!!! :D

Nenkitsune
10-25-2006, 07:02 PM
yeah, and when it detects that you're in need of massive amounts of ammo very fast, it opens up a dimensional gateway between your hopper and your pods, thus eliminating the need for reloading.

Ace24
10-25-2006, 07:10 PM
that made no since what so ever

Neither did that. :D

But that new oversized Halo looking hopper from DXS is an amazing concept.

Muddytaco
10-25-2006, 09:29 PM
ricochet apache anyone? That LCD screen and buttons are the exact same as an apache

SharpObjects
10-26-2006, 10:35 AM
Meh, I'll wait until someone buys this and gives a review.


Whats with the pulse? Everyone is talking about it but no one knows the BPS it can load. Can anyone answer?

08Lud08
10-26-2006, 11:25 AM
I need to get new gear now but If I do I'm gonna regret it when newer gear comes out in like month. I'm probably gonna look into the DXS hopper or this one.

Theheroguy
10-26-2006, 11:30 AM
Neither did that. :D

But that new oversized Halo looking hopper from DXS is an amazing concept.

people make mistakes

Theheroguy
10-26-2006, 11:31 AM
Neither did that. :D

But that new oversized Halo looking hopper from DXS is an amazing concept.
I was thinking either ricochet made that or kingman's getting sued

Hob Hayward
10-26-2006, 11:36 AM
ricochet apache anyone? That LCD screen and buttons are the exact same as an apache

Yeah it does, not to mention that I bet they're listing the drop rate as the feed rate. Because ifthe apache and every other ricochet ies about feedrate, why would they stop there and not lie about this one?

And I thought the other new loader was by procaps, of course I guess procaps might own Draxxus...

Theheroguy
10-26-2006, 04:03 PM
procaps does own draxxus their tanks are pretty nice too soon they'll make markers and jerseys and harnesses and shoes and socks like dye

bamf-hacker
10-26-2006, 05:51 PM
If Kingman wants to send me one I would be happy to do a Video review of it.

Canadianpballer
11-10-2006, 04:16 PM
The DraXxus loader is called the "Pulse". I think it's drop feed rate is somewhere around 30-35 balls per second.

spyelc22
11-12-2006, 02:58 PM
this thing looks like a halo or a ric feed door is to horzontal i thick il stick with my halo

rowdyroper2003
11-12-2006, 04:42 PM
i like it...when is it coming out? cause i just broke my TSA LCD, and cant find shells for it...

DRAGON
11-12-2006, 05:11 PM
The word I got was it will be available very soon like within a week or two. They were using them in the VS's in the range tent this week at the WCO. I got some pics of it:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/pad80c249d75762296252c522042f6c3d/ec127802.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/p6c435dc56cd0200a1135a6e8d2c3c35f/ec127664.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/pba2a0379924319b70c75006b5fd9f9b7/ec127492.jpg

It was keeping up with the VS's to a T. There was a little red headed kid that wanted to try the VS's today. He looked to be about 8 years old. He got on the VS3 and like totally ripped on it lol. Reballs were flying everywhere -

I saw the Pulse's and these guys were taking it and literally standing on them and the plastic didn't break.....very impressive. They're very strong but there are some negatives for me. They are humungous! They have a super short neck and I think it's due to the large height. The bottom portion of the hopper is low and wide. I didn't see one on a marker but I have a feeling it would get in the peripheral or in general, block your sight when shooting. It's just too large a hopper for my liking especially for the $160 or so price tag :eek: .....that's crazy -

I've been seeking a fasta(NPI) hopper and I'll most likely be getting one of these since the price I heard is around $80-90. Less than a HALO and a portion of the price of the Pulse in a smaller package that holds more paint -

marvin-martian
11-12-2006, 05:14 PM
i still dont like how it looks at all. its shaped poorly, the feed is too far forward, the lid should be further back, and the display looks like some crappy hand-help game from the early 90's.

Hob Hayward
11-12-2006, 05:26 PM
i still dont like how it looks at all. its shaped poorly, the feed is too far forward, the lid should be further back, and the display looks like some crappy hand-help game from the early 90's.

Yeah, I agree there. It also looks unbalanced, like the Egg. Thats one of the things I really do like about my B2, the feedneck is right in the middle and it feels nice on my imagine, even though it weighs alot more than my TSA did.

Did you happen to see how it loads Drago? Is it basically Halo style?

DRAGON
11-12-2006, 05:30 PM
I really didn't give it the full inspection. There were people continually waiting to shoot the VS's so the photo's and my turn shooting was brief. All I can really say is they kept up well with the high rof's of the VS's that were shooting there -

diba
11-16-2006, 11:16 PM
Looks pretty sweet to me, but the huge capacity is probably actually a negative for most people.....

redlantern
11-17-2006, 11:12 PM
It looks kind of tall.

MVS1
11-18-2006, 08:06 AM
Seems to me that everybody hated the Vlosity's looks when it came out too, but after seeing how well they ran the looks became less of an issue and started growing on people. If they are as fast as advertised and for $80-$90, I think I'll be able to learn to live with how it looks. The only really bad draw-back to me would be if you took a hit or alot of splatter on the back of the hopper it would be a real pain to clean paint out of the display and such.

bigred76
11-18-2006, 11:05 AM
So don't let people get behind you. :)

Looks promising, but I think I'll wait and see just how promising. Pulse is still looking better in my eyes....

DRAGON
11-18-2006, 11:46 AM
So don't let people get behind you. :)

Looks promising, but I think I'll wait and see just how promising. Pulse is still looking better in my eyes....

You mean this thing?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/pe6c383d197144e4c4b8ba3cc43254172/ec04f503.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/pac6c4b39114fcb687bde78922500c197/ec04f432.jpg

OK, here's the Fasta in woodland camo. As you can see, the front area of the hopper is humungous lol. The neck is about 1" tall(the round part you see in the pic is the stand not the neck) so this gigantic thing setting on top of your marker's going to be in the way of seeing anything in front of you. Come to think of it, I didn't see one of these hoppers on a marker at WCO, I wonder why? Only thing I was impressed with was the demonstrators were standing on them. That should be the guideline for materials all hoppers are made from in the future -

bigred76
11-18-2006, 11:56 AM
I have to agree, it is huge, but I'm used to dealing with stuff that aint the smallest (like myself, lmao!).

badlandsrox
11-18-2006, 10:18 PM
they may look ugly, and be big, but if they are fast, they are doing their purpose, so why's everyone complaining?

marvin-martian
11-19-2006, 06:22 AM
they may look ugly, and be big, but if they are fast, they are doing their purpose, so why's everyone complaining?
because its possible to be pretty and function well at the same time.

wylde01
11-19-2006, 03:20 PM
hey dragon did you happen to look at the inside of the fasta? if so is it like the apache with those little wires to push balls through or is it more advanced like a reloader b or something?

DRAGON
11-19-2006, 03:24 PM
**DRAGON hides face with hand**....again, no not for this one either. I think there was so much going on there, I really lost tune of looking into details -

bigred76
11-19-2006, 08:37 PM
S'alrite Drago, we forgive you. *pats DRAGON on back*

Kingman Rep (if you're out there), is there an exact release date yet?

TheRedBarron
11-20-2006, 05:04 AM
S'alrite Drago, we forgive you. *pats DRAGON on back*

Kingman Rep (if you're out there), is there an exact release date yet?
Speak for yourself, Drago you will be smited for this. :cloud:

Kingman-Rep
11-20-2006, 07:45 AM
S'alrite Drago, we forgive you. *pats DRAGON on back*

Kingman Rep (if you're out there), is there an exact release date yet?

We will start shipping early Dec.

bigred76
11-20-2006, 09:30 AM
Ok, thanks! I guess it might be worthwhile to check them out, in that case! :D


Just don't frame me for it, Matt... smiting Dragon's is a federal offense. They are an endangered species and all, ya know.

pbgeek09
11-21-2006, 12:16 PM
Can it feed 35+ bps on drop tests.. or actually on the marker?:confused:

DRAGON
12-03-2006, 11:43 AM
We will start shipping early Dec.


Well it's early December and a little birdie told me they should be available very soon. Retail prices are supposed to be $79-$89 which seems humble compared to others available. I'm in hopes I'll be one of the first to try one out at my local field **hint** - ;)

bigred76
12-03-2006, 11:45 AM
I need a link for where to get one for my Christmas list, too. :)

leed
12-03-2006, 11:58 AM
So is this actually supposed to feed at 35?

calebh
12-03-2006, 12:11 PM
are the 230 balls it holds real sized paintballs? nobody else uses real sized paintballs to advertise... j/w

DRAGON
12-03-2006, 01:29 PM
I need a link for where to get one for my Christmas list, too. :)

I'd have to say, Google is your friend - ;)

So is this actually supposed to feed at 35?

That's what they say. That's prolly drop, not attached to the marker. I would assume even a 5 - 7bps reduction in the feeding rate would still be great if that was the case. My fingers can only reach 17bps(I'm not interested in the ramping, ect crutch) so for me, that would still be an overkill -

are the 230 balls it holds real sized paintballs? nobody else uses real sized paintballs to advertise... j/w

JW: What is a non-real sized paintball? - :confused:

Hob Hayward
12-03-2006, 01:38 PM
Obviously one thats smaller than .68 maybe like those .56 (not sure if thats the right number) paintballs they sell for that os revolver.

bigred76
12-03-2006, 01:40 PM
There are also .43 calibre balls for RAP markers.

And Drago, where on Google did you see them for sale? My searches are coming up with only pictures about them....

DRAGON
12-03-2006, 01:47 PM
Only other sized baintballs that I know of that are available is the .50 cal for blow guns. Why would they put an extremely smaller ball in a hopper that's made for .68 cal balls then claim a capacity? That's like cutting their throat from the git-go lol -

BTW, I was being a bit satirical with calebh - ;)

...........And Drago, where on Google did you see them for sale? My searches are coming up with only pictures about them....

That was just a suggestion. I will get mine directly from Kingman - :smirk:

bigred76
12-03-2006, 01:52 PM
Care to pick one up for your old pal BigRed? :)

DRAGON
12-03-2006, 01:56 PM
That's what PM's are for -

calebh
12-03-2006, 02:08 PM
the imaginary size that's slightly smaller than .68 that most companies seem to use to measure hopper capacity for advertising lol. but seriously, tho, i've never had a "200 round" hopper that held more than like 185. even if i used big paint, and the company used small paint, there's not more than .015 inches diff per ball.

DRAGON
12-06-2006, 03:51 PM
OK gents......just found out I will have my smoke LCD Fasta some time next week. :smirk: I'll throw up a reveiw in the reveiw section after I use it on the field. I found out that it has no eyes but a tab system instead. Supposed to do fairly well with batteries as well -

Kingman-Rep
12-06-2006, 04:00 PM
the imaginary size that's slightly smaller than .68 that most companies seem to use to measure hopper capacity for advertising lol. but seriously, tho, i've never had a "200 round" hopper that held more than like 185. even if i used big paint, and the company used small paint, there's not more than .015 inches diff per ball.

The loader will actually fit 230 paintballs! We used a couple of different brands of paintballs to make sure we hit that number. a 140 round pod barely puts a dent in a empty hopper.

Hob Hayward
12-06-2006, 04:05 PM
Are you allowed to say when it will be released Kingman-Rep?

DRAGON
12-06-2006, 05:19 PM
Are you allowed to say when it will be released Kingman-Rep?

We will start shipping early Dec.

........

Hob Hayward
12-06-2006, 07:03 PM
It is early Dec, and there has been no official mention of it yet, other than the fact that they're advertising that it'll be given away for free in the 12 days of Christmas.

bigred76
12-06-2006, 07:05 PM
If Drago is getting his next week, I'd assume that that's when they'll announce them. Patience, young padawan. ;)

DRAGON
12-06-2006, 07:20 PM
It is early Dec, and there has been no official mention of it yet...........

That's to keep you on the edge of your seat and if I'm not mistaken, in your case it seems to be working lol - :D

Yer right, it's early December!

Kingman-Rep
12-07-2006, 10:35 AM
We have started shipping the loaders.

Drago doesn't get his till next week, because we are shipping from CA only right now. It takes a week for UPS to deliver to his cave.

bamf-hacker
12-07-2006, 10:54 AM
hummm... Maybe I should get one to add to my Loader Size Comparison... and soon to be loader speed comparison :) ** HINT Kingman-Rep **

bigred76
12-07-2006, 03:28 PM
****, if only I had some money, I'd be the first out of all of you to get one. Cali to Cali shipping is FTW.

Thanks for the update, Kingman-Rep!

Death_Dealer
12-08-2006, 03:20 PM
good news ,ive been waiting on the release date . i didnt want to spend over a 100.00 on a hopper .and for the selling price "for what it does ".its a bargain i cant let pass.

JMotioN
12-09-2006, 04:57 PM
wow for those prices, as long as it feeds consistently, doesnt hog batteries, semi strong shells (better than stock empire basically), and feeds evenly i think this hopper could very well take off....

DRAGON
12-12-2006, 08:31 PM
Just got the e-mail today. A smoke LCD Fasta is on it's way here WOOT! Hope it gets here by the weekend. It's going to be in the 80's(dayum I <3 Florida) so this weekend is reserved for Fasta play -

08Lud08
12-13-2006, 11:09 AM
Thats why I kinda hate living in Miami because its still hot in December. Hope you have a good day with the hopper.

Oscum Guy
12-13-2006, 12:50 PM
i am buying a new hopper soon and im definately getting this one.

DRAGON
12-13-2006, 01:13 PM
It came today but I don't have it. I hate UPS, they're totally useless. They always try to deliver during working hours. They don't deliver on Saturday. Now it will be delayed for another 2 days because they'll come while I'm at work again tomorrow. UPS SUCKS! -

alam3503
12-13-2006, 01:30 PM
I think you can go pick it up at the distrubtion center....if U have time during the day.....when you get it tell how it is....looks great

DRAGON
12-15-2006, 02:36 PM
Hey it finally came! :D

I'm right in the middle of a bunch of stuff right now. I'm going out to eat as well but when I get back I'll investigate. I will say this, "simplicity". It's the smoke color and wasn't sure I'd like the color but this is a black smoke not the purplish or brownish smoke I've seen on others. I can see the whole inside of the hopper and when I show some pics you'll see why I mentioned simplicity. It has a very interesting feedneck design as well. Overall :thumbup: :thumbup: from what I've seen thus far. Gotta go, I'll type some stuff later - ;)

Hob Hayward
12-15-2006, 02:47 PM
Can't wait for your review!

Death_Dealer
12-15-2006, 04:38 PM
nice . its like slow torture waiting on the reveiw ,looking forward for a hig rating ,since this will most likely be my next hopper.
by the way enjoy it

DRAGON
12-15-2006, 08:37 PM
Review......... (http://www.spyder.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=7910)

timbertiger20
01-11-2007, 08:38 PM
Need some help.......looking at getting a fasta......I need to know if there is any adjustment on the auto-off or if the auto-off it is capable of being shut off. Kinda hoping a tech from Kingman can answer this.......we shall see!

TheRedBarron
01-11-2007, 08:40 PM
cant answer your Q. But...

You can win one here...

http://www.spyder.tv/forums/showthread.php?p=105191#post105191

bigred76
01-11-2007, 09:05 PM
I do not believe the auto shut-off can be shut off (odd saying that, LOL!) as it's programmed into the circuitry. If you just use it once every little bit before the shut-off period's up, it should just stay on. This is just my thoughts, though. I haven't been able to get my hands on one myself as of yet... :(

timbertiger20
01-12-2007, 01:12 AM
It is odd to say..........my concern is that there are periods in a scenario where it is possible I go more than 20 mins without shooting........I'm just curious if alterations can be made! Hard to say without a factory tech or something.

tweak
01-12-2007, 04:49 AM
i like it ... one question thought im not sure i might of missed it in a post but is kingman going to offer the fasta in smoke to so you can see how low your hopper is ?

Kingman-Rep
01-12-2007, 07:18 AM
i like it ... one question thought im not sure i might of missed it in a post but is kingman going to offer the fasta in smoke to so you can see how low your hopper is ?

And as it so happens we do offer a smoke version in 18v only.


I'm looking into the auto shut off, i'll get back to you.

Kingman-Rep
01-12-2007, 12:40 PM
It is odd to say..........my concern is that there are periods in a scenario where it is possible I go more than 20 mins without shooting........I'm just curious if alterations can be made! Hard to say without a factory tech or something.

The board in the loader does not have an option to disable the auto shut off.

Halucin8
01-12-2007, 04:27 PM
but if you get the lcd version and press teh min button it will spin the loader without shooting therefore keepign the loader on.I love my lcd Fasta

DRAGON
01-12-2007, 06:05 PM
but if you get the lcd version and press teh min button it will spin the loader without shooting therefore keepign the loader on.I love my lcd Fasta

It has to be turned on and the timer on for that. If the timer is not on the minute button will not turn the impeller. All it will do then is change the minutes on the LCD screen -

timbertiger20
01-12-2007, 08:13 PM
Dissapointing........but get this man a Fasta for answering the question......LOL

RIpaintballer
01-13-2007, 05:40 PM
I would like to have one of these puppies but money is hard when your brother is really sick. =/

Just here to help. :D
-Me