View Full Version : TL-R is like TL-X?

09-18-2006, 11:34 AM
Maybe somebody just made this question. I search the forum and found only one topic with some information.

TL-R is like TL-X? the only difference is the Expansion Chamber?

Why is not the TL-R in Kingman website, neither in their "Diagrams and Manuals" page?

Thanks a lot!!

Hob Hayward
09-18-2006, 12:13 PM
Yeah they're the same other than the VA and the color. One is angled forwards, the other isn't.

Mech Warrior
09-18-2006, 01:11 PM
Depends on which Diagrams and Manuals page you look at. The diagrams for both the TL-R and TL-X are on this page:


No manual for the TL-R, though...:dodgy:

09-18-2006, 01:46 PM
The TL-R is rear cocking...The TL-X is top cocking...

09-18-2006, 02:10 PM
Ney, Ney, I have a TLR body and unless they made more than 1 TLR body, which I don't think they did, its top cocking, just like the TLX. Jimmy you might be thinking of the TL, that my have been rear cocking.

09-18-2006, 02:40 PM
I thought the old TL was a side cocker.....
The 'R' is for Rear I think...
Hard to tell these days, Kingman seems to be going all Top Cocking and may be keeping some old models on even though they are changing things....
*Edit* The Kingman site says the top cocking ACS bolt works in both the TL-R and the TL-X so I guess the only diff is a 15* v/a.....(TL and TL+ are rear cockers) oops!

09-18-2006, 02:42 PM
Maybe, I'm not sure. I just know the one I have is exactly like my TLX body was except different color.

09-19-2006, 11:34 AM
I guess the only diff is a 15* v/a

What is "a 15* v/a"?

09-19-2006, 11:38 AM
a 15* as in 15 degree the expansion chamber is angled forward 15 degrees

Mech Warrior
09-19-2006, 11:41 AM
The port for the expansion chamber on the vertical adapter (v/a) is angled at about 15 degrees forward of vertical.

Here's a TL-R:

And here's a TL-X:

09-19-2006, 11:45 AM
the expansion chamber is a "must" playing with Co2?. Should I buy it?
thanks a lot!

Hob Hayward
09-19-2006, 11:47 AM
Er, its not vital at all, a better upgrade would be to anti-siphon your co2 tank.

Mech Warrior
09-19-2006, 11:55 AM
Er, its not vital at all, a better upgrade would be to anti-siphon your co2 tank.Agreed. Since either marker comes stock with what's commonly referred to as a 'single-stage' expansion chamber (which simply means the foregrip is hollow), a better first upgrade would be either an anti-siphon tube on your co2 tank, or a better barrel.

09-19-2006, 12:00 PM
Er, its not vital at all, a better upgrade would be to anti-siphon your co2 tank.

what is a "anti-siphon" ?

09-19-2006, 12:03 PM
I just found a site explain about it. thanks a lot!!!!.

Any other "must" upgrade?. Barrel? E-grip? etc..

Mech Warrior
09-19-2006, 12:10 PM
For the money, an anti-siphon is a better investment for the co2 it will save you. A new barrel may or may not shoot better. I have several different barrels, and my TL-R shoots just as well with the stock barrel.

If you want an electronic marker, in my opinion you're better off just buying one to start with. Check ebay for a refurbished Spyder Imagine. Actionvillage.com usually has a bunch of them on ebay for around $65.

http://sporting-goods.search.ebay.com/_Markers_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQsacatZ472 49QQsassZactionvillageQQsbrsrtZl

02-15-2008, 10:17 PM
I just bought a TL and its definitely the rear cocking one, as is I believe the TL Plus (which is only rearcocking TL I found on the diagrams/manuals page). Other than where they cock and some other, non-vital differences, all TL's are the same. That is, all their internals are identical, correct? cuz what I'd like to do is see if I can find some that people are scrapping (old, broken, etc) and buy them cheap cheap to scavenge parts and/or build another one.

03-30-2009, 01:09 PM
TL-R is top cocking i have one

03-30-2009, 01:19 PM
you do realize this thread is over a year old, right?