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lazershot
09-07-2006, 06:20 PM
i had asked this question on another thread but i thought it was worth its own thread. this sounds like an interesting subject.

my inspiration for this question came to be at a paintball shop. when i was shopping for proper matched ammo...as you fellas recomended....i asked the question about acuracy as i did here on the forum.
the dealer's advise was to go with compressed air because it does not liquify.
he said that would effect acuracy.

your thoughts on this..
thank you!

vwjimmy
09-07-2006, 06:32 PM
It absolutly effects accuracy! One of the biggest factors in the accuracy of a paintball marker is consistant velosity. CO2 cannot provide that. Period. Shot after shot, HPA provides the same charge, allowing all the shots fired to come out at the same velosity therefore landing in the same place on the target. Even a vertical CO2 tank has huge variations in pressure, density and temperature that make velosity a more of a variable than a constant....

Hob Hayward
09-07-2006, 06:59 PM
Or you could buy a quality co2 reg, like the palmer stabilizer, and have great consistency while retaining the ability to use co2, which is much more conveniant for some people. If you play priamrily at a field with cheap air fills, an HPA tank is better, but if you play more rec ball where you can't easily get your tank filled, I'd stick with co2, and get a reg if you really want better consistency.

lazershot
09-07-2006, 06:59 PM
thank you for that explanation. very interesting indeed.
can my electra be retrofitted for air? or that might not be the right question, do i need a different canister for air? and if its such a vital difference, then why wouldnt everyone use air? not being rude, just inquisitive.
thank you

bamf-hacker
09-07-2006, 07:12 PM
your Electra is ready for HPA right out of the box.

You do need a new tank, a HPA tank.

Everyone is not using HPA because the tanks are not cheap about $200 for a good 68/45 and not fillable every where.

lazershot
09-07-2006, 07:21 PM
wow! thats a lot of george washington's for some air? thats almost as much as the gun!
typically, where would i get a tank and filled? the dealer i went to does not do air.
or....if i had a compressor....could i do it myself?
thanks

Rux
09-08-2006, 12:55 AM
Check the fields you play at to see if they fill HPA Most consumer grade compressors don't come any where near 3000/4500 psi. We're talkin' low 100's - 200's.

Hob Hayward
09-08-2006, 01:31 PM
Oh yeah, there ARE cheaper air tanks ~60$ however, you'll only get ~500 shots per tank with them. the 200$ tanks yield around the same number of shots as a 20 oz. co2 tank (1000ish). I mostly use co2, because its cheap, the tanks are 15$ and its conveniant for me, because I mostly play in the "wildlife sanctuary" next to my friends house :). I have a 60$ tank to use when I go to fields.

drummer and paintballer
09-08-2006, 04:50 PM
the guy that said that with HPA tanks that r cheap and they finish right away he is lieying because i have a $70 tank and it almost shoots like 3/4 of a box of 1000 paintballs.

spyderpaintball
09-08-2006, 06:00 PM
drummer it depends. There are 2 different "cheap" nitrogen tanks. Both are made of either steel or aluminum(sp) and work well.

The difference is in there sizes. One is a 48/3000 which runs about $50-70 depending on where you are and will shoot around 500 shots.

The other is a 72/3000 which runs about $70-90 depending at that will get around 700 shots. So in theory both of you are right.

Most paintball stores will fill nitrogen tanks as well as fields. Many run about $1 per 1000 psi of air. i.e a 3000 psi will cost $3 to fill. Other than paintball places not many places fill tanks.

Air compressors wont work becuase their output is only upto about 300 psi and they dont have to power to fill a tank.

derwood
09-09-2006, 06:03 PM
Hey if any of you guys live were they do scuba tanks Sometimes those places will fill the air tanks. But the epa is getting more and more involed so sometimes it is harder to get air tanks filled than co2 . Have a great one