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Baozer
08-25-2006, 02:16 PM
:o im thinking about getting HPA for my pilot if it wieghs less then a 20 oz co2 tank... i tried strapping the co2 to my back with a remote line and harness but it would be really uncomfortable... how heavy stuff is is a big deal to me because i only wiegh 100 pounds.. sometimes less >.<;; So yeah.. is like a 68/3000 hpa tank lighter then a 20 oz co2 tank?


[wow.. im kinda wondering how i got so light >.< i used to wiegh like 110 and was alot shorter... like 2 years ago... wierd.]

claustrophobia9
08-25-2006, 02:18 PM
everything is light except steel tanks, whether or not it is lighter doesnt bother me, your gun will shoot better. PERIOD. personally id THINK that a 68ci tank would be about a half pound heavier at the max. since co2 is measured in wieght.. and 20oz is 1.25 pounds plus the tank wieght. and 68ci tanks come in at about 2.3pounds alone, the compressed air inside the tank doesnt add (noticeable, atleast by me) wieght unlike co2

Baozer
08-25-2006, 02:20 PM
dude i wiegh 100 pounds... lol.. all wieght matters to me >.<

claustrophobia9
08-25-2006, 02:27 PM
i just wieghed myself then with an empty co2 tank then with an empty 68ci tank. take note that my scale is inprecise, it rounds to the nearest .5 pounds.

166 alone
167.5 with empty 20oz aluminum co2
168 with empty 68ci carbon fiber tank

luxfur(the maker of my hpa tank) states that it wieghs 2.5 pounds when full.

the co2 tank is 1.5+ 1.25 = 2.75

in theory the co2 tank should be heavier, although half fills will make it lighter.

splaturout
08-25-2006, 02:29 PM
ok I just grabbed my full 20oz CO2 bottle and my full 68/3000 fiber wrapped HPA (thanks robertg) and I really couldn't tell the difference. For such a little wieght difference and such a HUGE performance difference get the HPA!!

Baozer
08-25-2006, 02:29 PM
but i suppose the co2 actually wieghs more then the stuff thats in hpa tanks?

Baozer
08-25-2006, 02:31 PM
eh.. im confusing myself il just get hpa ... then i can actually do bursts without having to recock it because the pressure dropped

claustrophobia9
08-25-2006, 02:35 PM
ok I just grabbed my full 20oz CO2 bottle and my full 68/3000 fiber wrapped HPA (thanks robertg) and I really couldn't tell the difference. For such a little wieght difference and such a HUGE performance difference get the HPA!!
do you have a scale in your house?

splaturout
08-25-2006, 02:42 PM
Did it


Me: 176.6
Full 20oz CO2: 179.4
Full 68/3000 fiber wrapped: 179.4

The place that filled my tank stops at 2900 (or at least that is what I can read on the gauge.) I don't know if this is accurate but it is a digital bathroom scale. I have not shot anything out of either tank since it was filled. I hope this helps.

HPA FTW

claustrophobia9
08-26-2006, 05:43 AM
jeez thats like 3 pounds do you have a carlton HPA tank?

splaturout
08-26-2006, 05:44 AM
Pure Energy from robertg of the B/S/T thread...you can see it there.

applesauce
08-26-2006, 07:19 AM
HPA is sooo much better that the posibility of weight increase shouldnt matter

Baozer
08-26-2006, 08:03 AM
yeah right after i sell some stuff ima buy the crossfire 68/3000... [going off topic here.. but.. everything is stock on my gun so im wondering if i should buy an (HPA tank) or a (feedneck and barrel first)..] what do you guys think i should do?

colonel_moo
08-26-2006, 08:08 AM
well alot of people are going to say differently, but honestly, co2 works fine on a spyder. if you get a higher end gun it will matter tremendously, but theres no solenoids or anything that will break due to co2 on a spyder except a couple orings. so my advice is get the feedneck and barrel you wanted, but also get an anti-siphon tube installed on your tank.

Paradox313
08-26-2006, 08:25 AM
but anti-siphons are like what $40?

dude just get a hpa tank you wont regret it. unless its a steel tank. those are pretty heavy

Baozer
08-26-2006, 08:31 AM
if i bang a fiber wrapped HPA tank against a table... or i drop it or something.. will it go KABOOM! .... cause im scared of that happening >.<

splaturout
08-26-2006, 08:33 AM
no it will not....also get a cover for it and you will be fine. I waited for to long before I got mine....it is so much more consistant. Just get a 68/3000 maybe someone in B/S/T might have one you can get.

marvin-martian
08-26-2006, 08:34 AM
haha, not quite. fiberwraps are REALLY strong and durable.

Baozer
08-26-2006, 08:36 AM
i can buy this crossfire from this dude after i sell some stuff... its 85 bucks... 68/3000.. is that a good price?

splaturout
08-26-2006, 08:37 AM
When is the hydro date up? how old?

Baozer
08-26-2006, 08:38 AM
its 3 years old.. it needs to be rehydroed in 2 years

splaturout
08-26-2006, 09:03 AM
I would go for it then...not a bad deal

Baozer
08-26-2006, 09:05 AM
does it matter if i run high pressure or low pressure through my stock pilot acs '05? cause i dont really understand what the difference is.. besides the output pressure

splaturout
08-26-2006, 09:09 AM
The stock Pilot runs about 850psi or so. As long as the HPA tank is set to High Output you will be fine. In the long run (After you get a reg) you will be able to knock down the pressure to whatever you tune your gun in at. The reg will be able to knock down the pressure so you will be able to keep your HPA tank the same the entire time.