View Full Version : primal velocity problem...

01-07-2006, 04:39 PM
i posted this in the old forum & at pbn but haven't come up with anything yet. i traded for a primal & can't get it to shoot up to speed at all. last time i chrono'd it wouldn't shoot over 200fps. that was with a lpr setting of 90psi & the hpr around 190 - 200psi. i tried running higher/lower settings with no luck. the battery is good. not too much tension on the bolt spring. bolt is in right side up. ram sleeve is in correctly (holes on the bottom). all o-rings look good & are lubed. nothing is blocking the valve. it cycles fine but just won't shoot anywhere near a good fps. could the noid be bad? it doesn't leak. doesn't vent until the lpr is @ 120psi or so & stops as soon as it's lowered a little. also, for it not to be shooting very fast it sure is loud. i've tried another hpr thinking that might be the case but alas it was not. the paint i've been using matches the barrel fine too. i did remove the venturi from the bolt but i can't see where that would matter. i did the same on a couple of old em1's i had & it allowed me to run at a slightly lower input & seeing as how em1's & primals are so similar i figured i'd do the same.

i'm completely stumped here guys. please help me. i might be looking to sell it & if so it has to work shoot good obviously. if i do keep it i want it to work good too. seems like it will be a really good marker if i can just figure this thing out.

01-07-2006, 06:08 PM
hmm.. strip the gun completely. take pictures and then post.

01-07-2006, 06:18 PM
Check the bolt and make sure it isn't upside down.

01-07-2006, 08:19 PM
bolt is in right side up.

i don't know when i'd get around to taking pix of it apart. could it be that i'm using a regular 9v instead of the 9.6 that came with it?

01-07-2006, 10:15 PM
lol no idk why ppl think thatmatters. i use a rechargable duracell in mine.

01-08-2006, 01:07 AM
First of all, did you by it new and is it warrenty on it still, (1 year i think)

If it is,
do not take it appart, giv it to the shop/kingman and let them take it, maybe you get a new because it should not be like this.
It hearing like it somthing wrong hope you have warrenty then it is easy.

If not,
try to first of all take 4-5 drop og regular paintball oil there you scruwing the HP air in and put the HPR on 300psi - (200 - 300 psi) and the LPR on max 100 psi after the bock is this max.
And shoot for a vhile or see if it work.

If not trying some other things but do this first of all and see.
maybe try it the next day to before you do somthing "big work" and reply here how it is going,

Ehh you dont use LP on it...???
Primal use 600 +++ psi in.. use HP do you that?

01-08-2006, 11:39 AM
lol no idk why ppl think thatmatters. i use a rechargable duracell in mine.

i didn't think it mattered either but i didn't know for sure so i asked.

it was used when i got it so i doubt kingman would give me a new one.

i'm using a hp tank.

i guess my next step is taking the noid off & seeing if there's something blocking it.

01-08-2006, 12:00 PM
actually yea woops never thought of that. check the noid gasket and see if it is damaged. if it is still under warranty u are able to send it to kingman.

01-08-2006, 05:38 PM
took the noid out. gasket looks fine & the passages going to the ram are clear. also took the valve out. also looks good. ran some oil through the asa so we'll see if that helps tomorrow. if not...anybody wanna buy a low shooting primal? eh? eh? haha.

01-08-2006, 06:42 PM
lol i would have but i just bought a new gun

01-09-2006, 04:00 AM
...anybody wanna buy a low shooting primal? eh? eh? haha.

I want to by it :) maybe..

01-09-2006, 05:59 PM
i'd like to get the thing shooting but if you want to pm me with an offer we can talk.