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irishwarrior
07-08-2006, 05:56 AM
Should I get the Ariakon Overlord pistol to suppplement my mech MR1?

yamaha cow
07-08-2006, 06:12 AM
no go zeus www.warsensor.com

irishwarrior
07-08-2006, 08:51 AM
no go zeus www.warsensor.com

I looked at the Zeus G1 because it's in my price range and it's a load of junk! I don't trust it as far as the reviews i've seen talk about it. :(

thechubbss12
07-08-2006, 12:20 PM
Humm IMO there is no reason for a pistol.... its just 10 extra balls... why not cary a pod pack and have 140 X 4 extra balls?...

Hossy
07-08-2006, 01:03 PM
Humm IMO there is no reason for a pistol.... its just 10 extra balls... why not cary a pod pack and have 140 X 4 extra balls?...

qft

irishwarrior
07-08-2006, 01:12 PM
Humm IMO there is no reason for a pistol.... its just 10 extra balls... why not cary a pod pack and have 140 X 4 extra balls?...

A Pistol is used when you run out of paint or air so you can fight until you can reload because if you're in a fire fight chances are you can't reload without getting hit.

timmyshoota
07-08-2006, 01:15 PM
A Pistol is used when you run out of paint or air so you can fight until you can reload because if you're in a fire fight chances are you can't reload without getting hit.
I can reload faster than you can pull out your pistol. And then after I've reloaded I'll be able to shoot 200rnds more accurately and faster than you can shoot your 10. Learn how to reload and you won't have any problems.

Hossy
07-08-2006, 01:16 PM
ummm personally i wouldnt use a pistol, if ur in a firefight, at an angle where they cant shoot you, and reload.

when i usually play, if im shooting at someone, ill shoot some, and let him shoot, let him waste his paint, even do that when u dont have paint just shoot so he keeps ducking in.

when ur loader is becomming light, flip the lid of the loader up, so then if there is a break in the action, you just pull out the pod and its easy like that, but while the lid is open make sure that there is some paint still in there, if u know what i mean

vikingshadow
07-08-2006, 01:41 PM
While I agree that I don't care much other than the Ooh and Aahness of a paintball pistol, I have to disagree with some of the things that were said here.

Humm IMO there is no reason for a pistol.... its just 10 extra balls... why not cary a pod pack and have 140 X 4 extra balls?...
Some people don't play that type of paintball. Pump players have no need for 140 X 4 extra balls, and actually do quite well with their 10 round tubes and only carry about 100 all together. And woodsball players often only carry a couple hundred rounds. Now, obviously, no one would use a pistol in a tournament or rec speedball situation because the time issue would be plausible, so the assumption that everyone would carry a pack with massive amounts of paint is biased towards speedball and really not fair to argue about.
qft
See above. Why is this the truth? I see nothing solid regarding all types of paintball and you provided no other argument for it.
A Pistol is used when you run out of paint or air so you can fight until you can reload because if you're in a fire fight chances are you can't reload without getting hit.
I've seen a lot of paintball and NEVER have I seen a pistol used for this. There simply isn't enough time to shoot your pistol WHILE you're reloading your gun. There aren't ammo runners bringing ammo to you if you run out - which shouldn't happen during a game anyways! Besides, if you have time to pull the pistol and use it for 10 shots, then you have time to reload your primary gun because it takes, what? 5 seconds to do?

Pistols, in real life as much as in paintball, are used sparingly and for up close confrontations.There just isn't enough of those to warrant their practical use in paintball - in my opinion. Now, if you play games that EVERYONE uses only pistols, or are going for the actual look of milsim or whatever, then ok, I can see it. Otherwise, nope - can't see a real use for them other than wowing the new guys!
I can reload faster than you can pull out your pistol. And then after I've reloaded I'll be able to shoot 200rnds more accurately and faster than you can shoot your 10. Learn how to reload and you won't have any problems.
Again, while I disagree with the use of a pistol, this statement is on the assumption that everyone plays your type of ball. And, assuming you can shoot all 200 rounds before he shoots his 10, that doesn't say much because you shot 20 times as much paint as he did to accomplish the same thing with just 10 shots. I know what you're going to say, timmy, and yes, I understand that you probably can get more people out or hold them down better, but in the context of what I'm talking about, you understand what I'm saying.

I'm not trying to start anything fellows, because you know I'm as much a tournament player as any of you and enjoy shooting loads of paint at any given target any time of the day. However, please remember there are different types of balling, and not everything is tournament/speedball based so we shouldn't be looking down our noses at them.

Now, after all that - there's this pistol out that carries a 12 gram and 10 rounds all in a clip - I can't remember the name and it's quite expensive, but that one sure gets some Ooohs and aaahs from me!

Hossy
07-08-2006, 01:51 PM
vike, i do agree with some of the stuff u said, but you also have to think about this.

he said that he would whip it out in a firefight, 10 balls isnt gonna let you do anything in a firefight, unless he or she is doing something to reveal themselves more.

it would be hard to reload, and shoot with a pistol at the same time, harder than reloading a pod into your loader..

Hossy
07-08-2006, 01:56 PM
also vike, i did have some reasoning for my thinking, after timmyshootas response

vikingshadow
07-08-2006, 02:00 PM
Well, a firefight in speedball and a firefight in the woods are two different things. And while I agree that 10 balls do NOT make a firefight, it only takes one to shoot someone out! Maybe his fellow teammates are in a firefight and he's just plinking them out one at a time. I know several pump players that LOVE to shoot out semi players because it pisses those players off - and the pump players can pump off several of those balls in a hurry and reload with their 10 round tubes even FASTER than you can with the large pods. If he's using the 10 round tubes to feed his pistol, then there's no reason why he can't do it fast.

Also notice what I said about his post. I said just as much about that as I did the other posts. I feel a pistol is not a good thing to use in an actual paintball game unless everyone's using them.

I'm not defending anyone here, just defending choice of game situations and everyone's right to play any way they want without being looked down on. A lot of times, people on this forum (including myself) tend to think ONLY of speedball and 9 times out of 10, it's tournament speedball. We need to get out of that mode because we aren't thumbing our noses or making anyone feel small because of their choice of play - and even though no one means to do that, when you only think one way, it does bother others.

That's all!

also vike, i did have some reasoning for my thinking, after timmyshootas response

I didn't see your second post until AFTER I posted mine - I was in the middle of typing my original one when you posted it. However, I will say I qft the QFT posts (and all their incarnations) because it's not always correct, nor is it saying anything to anyone other than the poster is just repeating what someone else said. May as well use the "Yeah, that!" smiley. I wasn't meaning to offend, just point out the fact that not everything had been considered.

colonel_moo
07-08-2006, 04:13 PM
the only practicality to having a pistol is to back yourself up if you main gun breaks. this is also probably only useful in a scenario because you would have time to go back to put your main gun someplace safe. what are you going to do with your main gun while you are using your pistol during a normal game anyway? just leave it in the mud? like people have already said, it takes just as long to take the pistol out than to reload.

bottom line, you are going to waste your money on something you will never use, almost everyone in this thread agrees with me. but its your money and your decision, so if you think you are going to use it then go right ahead.

timmyshoota
07-08-2006, 04:23 PM
The way I feel has already been said by others, so I won't repeat them.

For $15 you can get a pack and some pods and not have to worry about running out of paint. You should reload before you run out of paint anyways, so while the other person is shooting at you, you reload. Pistols are slow and only hold 10 rounds. So if your main gun runs out of paint you can shoot 10 shots before needing to reload one of them. 11 times out of 10 you won't hit anyone with those 10 shots, so which is more beneficial? Reloading your main gun and having 200rnds to shoot, or pulling out the pistol, shooting 10 shots, then still having to reload your main gun?

QAZ123
07-08-2006, 04:28 PM
Vike just the coolest. He's the epiphany of cool now that he's a tourney baller and a pump player now!

JB.

vikingshadow
07-08-2006, 04:48 PM
LOL! That's me - Mr. Cool! :dodgy:

Now that my secret E Identity has been established, I can continue with my mission to take over the world through totally Ecool domination!

Nah, I'm just old and cranky....

claustrophobia9
07-08-2006, 04:52 PM
i dunno, i really cant see practicality of a pistol but i know some people really like them. i would tend to go witht the opinion of timmy shooter that a reload might be a better idea. but if you want a pistol, look for something with a spyder design so you can get some upgrades... i know one of them had the same frame as a spyder and accepted the e grip which could be usefull, but i cant remeber what it was called.

yamaha cow
07-08-2006, 07:44 PM
just let him stand over u when he is telling u to surrender shott him in the nuts. and my G1+ works better than any pistol (tac8, overlord,pgp) there not as accurate or as fast and my g1+ is lighter also. and there is a G1 and A G1+
the plus is the better 1. www.pbreview.com

bamf-hacker
07-08-2006, 08:20 PM
It also depends on where you play... My field is a one marker only field, so you cant play with your main gun and have pistol on you. You can bring 2 to the dead zone, but not into live play.

HacKeR

bigred76
07-08-2006, 09:16 PM
My fields are all as many as you can carry. One time, I saw a dude walk onto the field with like 7 guns and was laughing my ass off. Too bad I had to tech a gun, I wouldn't have minded to see what he actually did with all those markers....

Anyways, I don't see a point in a pistol. As said by others, a pod pack is the way to go. Doesn't have to be 4 pods, even ONE extra will help a lot. I knwo what you're talking about Vike, but I have to dissagree. I play a lot of woods and still carry my Redz pack around even if there's only one other person I go against. I might only carry a couple pods, but I will still have the pack. You never know when you might need extra paint. And yes, I have shot paintball pistols before.... I actually own onbe. A PT Extreme, to be exact. It shoots mebbe 50 feet before it's useless, and the balls double feed into the barrel no matter what you do (and I have tried numerous things...gonna try QAZ's electrical tape idea that he uses on his pumps, I haven't tried that yet...). The Zeus's I've tried (friend has a G1 which broke, so he bought a G1+) are excellent. No complaints about them at all so long as you clean them properly (the reason his died).

QAZ123
07-08-2006, 09:50 PM
K now that I'm back at home I can put my two cent's in.

I don't think it's necessary if you have a semi on the field to have a backup pistol I think I would rather have an extra pod as you shouldn't get that low on paint anyway during a game. If your in a firefight and you start getting low just shoot.. flip the lid... shoot... dump your pod close lid boom back in the game.

I only think a pistol is necessary if it's your main marker at the moment. I got a D-day video with Tom Kaye running onto the harbor by himself with two palmer's springfed pistol's blasting away while there are over a hundred people shooting at him. That was pretty cool but then he had to duck into a bunker and reload and he had to do it by hand. To each his own I guess.

JB.

irishwarrior
07-11-2006, 04:18 PM
:D Thanks for the help guys but, I should have mentioned that I am a meticulous shooter and play woodsball so I would use the pistol when I occasionally need it like if my gun stopped working (it's happened before).

Ace24
07-12-2006, 09:51 AM
The only point behind a pistol is if your gun jamms or you run out of air in a woodsball game and you dont want to be out. You simply just pull out your pistol and continue playing till your shot. Then when your out just go back and fix your gun. I dont see any other point in them. Unless you want to look cool and/or you use it for point blank shots.

I have done the "Out of paint dry shot at enemy" before. Its fun... I kept two people behind a bunker in woodsball by dryshooting when I ran out of paint. (Stupid me didnt have my pod pack yet)