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el jefe561
06-21-2006, 04:50 PM
my friend is sellin a pilot acs and a halo hopper for 100 for all and its like brand new or should i get a ion but if i get an ion id have 2 spend more on compressed air and a good hopper and it would total up around 300

Hossy
06-21-2006, 05:23 PM
what kinda halo is on it?

well lets see, the ion is better hands down, but if u dont have the money, the pilot is a way to go to start off

Total90Oliver
06-21-2006, 05:24 PM
Well upgrading an Ion is pretty expensive but overall i think it has a better quality than a spyder gun, That pilot sounds like a really good idea but u also have to get a clamping feedneck or else ur gonna break alot of elbows

By the way..if by any chance u dont buy the Pilot off ur friend, can u maybe reffer me to him and i might buy it off him.

Sandman_Bravo
06-21-2006, 05:32 PM
Go shoot the pilot, then try an Ion. Decide which you like better bearing in mind the Pilot is a better price.

el jefe561
06-21-2006, 05:43 PM
i got a tipmann 98c right now should i buy one of those 2 guns or just stick with tipmann with a 14in whsiper barrel?

Total90Oliver
06-21-2006, 05:45 PM
well it depends wut u play scenarion or speedball, The tipmann is a great scenario gun but is a not so good speedball gun, but the ion or pilot are great for speedball and moderate in scenarion play. Id go with the ion or the pilot

el jefe561
06-21-2006, 06:07 PM
i play both what is better for both?

Sandman_Bravo
06-21-2006, 06:19 PM
Stock tippy 98 isn't a good crossover marker. You need to try out different guns to make an informed decision yourself.

Paintball0308
06-21-2006, 06:38 PM
I would ask friends who have a pilot or and ion and try it out. I think an Ion is a cool looking gun and it is ok stock. my friend let me shoot it and I think it is good but I haven't shot a Pilot so I cant compare it. I think it sounds like a good deal if its a halo b hopper or a halo backman or frontman because a new one cost $50 bucks so its your choice. whatever fits your budget.

Hossy
06-21-2006, 06:40 PM
halo B's go higher than 50 bucks Paintball0308

Total90Oliver
06-21-2006, 06:53 PM
a halo b is 150 dollars or so Paintball0308 "stop trying to fake him out"(lol haha)

el jefe561
06-21-2006, 07:05 PM
what if i put a response trigger on my 98c i found a response on actionvillage for 60$ should i just stick with 98c if i put a response on it

Total90Oliver
06-21-2006, 07:10 PM
Well personally i would go with the pilot cuz its a fast gun and its elctric but a 98 custom with a response trigger is pretty good too

pman15
06-21-2006, 07:23 PM
a halo b is 150 dollars or so Paintball0308 "stop trying to fake him out"(lol haha)

hmmmm used to be now there about for a non-rip about 100$,and a rip for about 105$ or if u have a halo u could just add one

Paintball0308
06-21-2006, 08:14 PM
no I wasnt talking about halo b those are around $100. I was talking about the backman or frontman halo hopper.

pman15
06-21-2006, 08:23 PM
i don't like the idea of the backman and the frontman.never had experiance with them,but i have been told that the backman is a piece of s***

Paintball0308
06-21-2006, 08:58 PM
When I was playing last week I was playing against a guy with a pilot on full auto with a halo backman with no chops. So I think it would work well on auto but maybe not if you have fast fingers and can shoot faster than auto.

viperx6x9x
06-21-2006, 09:59 PM
ok maybe this is just my gun, and maybe they dont do this after they break in a little. But i took my pilot acs out for the first time and it didnt do so well on C02. i was playin woodsball so i never really fired it too fast. and it still wasted 2 of my o-rings. keep in mind it was a good high 80's degree day out. I'm just throwin my 2 cents in. if you go with the pilot your gettin a good deal. like their saying the halo alone goes for around 100 the pilot is about 130 thats what i got mine for anyway. if you got the cash to go compressed air with it i think it's a good deal. cuz im not impressed with its operation on C02 so far. as for the ion i havent played with one yet so i got no imput on that one.

Total90Oliver
06-21-2006, 10:05 PM
Well thats another thing the ION requires Compressed air so thats another 50 or 70 dollars but when u get the pilot it can use co2 and compressed air and viper says it doesnt work so good with c02 than here is something u can do.. go to order paintball.com they will have a package with a pilot acs and a 48 ci 3000 psi tank for 160 dollars which is pretty good considering viper got only his gun for 130