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divvichild
06-08-2006, 09:24 PM
I have about $300 to spend on a marker, its actually about $700 but i need a tank and hopper. What do you guys recomend?
Im thinking about an ion, but do you have any other suggestions?

WhatThaSmurf
06-08-2006, 09:30 PM
Besides not spending $400 on a tank and loader?! Really there are too many options for me to just throw things out, so how about you tell us all the markers you were thinking of and we go from there?

divvichild
06-08-2006, 09:42 PM
well, ok ur right, its more 320 for tank and loader.
Thats a 68/45 and a vlocity. However, i cant decide where i might get the halo b instead. Ive heard they are kinda ugly, but perform well, and thats what counts. Im particuarly interested in the ion, and i test fired one today, and i was pretty sweet. My friend is looking into a cocker trilogy, so that is another option.

Skidds
06-09-2006, 03:52 AM
well, ok ur right, its more 320 for tank and loader.
Thats a 68/45 and a vlocity. However, i cant decide where i might get the halo b instead. Ive heard they are kinda ugly, but perform well, and thats what counts. Im particuarly interested in the ion, and i test fired one today, and i was pretty sweet. My friend is looking into a cocker trilogy, so that is another option.
Also check out ICD's Promaster or Bushmaster, also Diablo Wrath as well as the autocockers like you mentioned. I would go with the Halo-B for the loader.

ShadowX
06-09-2006, 04:13 AM
Yea, and Trilogys and IONS do NOT compare, AT ALL... I say an ION or a Promaster.. both are wonderful guns..

vikingshadow
06-09-2006, 04:29 AM
However, i cant decide where i might get the halo b instead. Ive heard they are kinda ugly, but perform well, and thats what counts.

Never heard of the Halo being called ugly before, especially when being compared to the Vlocity! Seems like only last month everyone was calling the Vlocity a big piece of ugly plastic....how fast everything changes! :rolleyes:

Personally, if I were on a strict budget and needed a tank and loader plus the gun, I'd go with the Ion. I'm not a fan of the Ion, but I don't hate them either. It's just that you can buy them brand new for less than 200.00 now, and used for close to 100.00. The promaster, last I looked, was closer to 400.00 new (not sure what they are now, though.)

1. Buy a used Reloader B, Halo B, or z boarded Eggy (it's fast enough for the Ion and Promaster, and fast enough for most people's fingers whether they admit it or not.) 30.00 - 100.00

2. Used 68/3000 tank - probably 70.00 - 120.00 for a carbon fiber tank, much less for used steel. Unless you really need carbon fiber (for lightness) go with a 68/3000 steel tank.

3. Used stock Ion, around 100.00 - 150.00.

Total for complete package = 200.00 - 370.00.

Just guessing on the numbers, but I think that's pretty close and your dollar amount falls right in that area.

thechubbss12
06-09-2006, 06:01 AM
Humm you could aways buy a Upped dm4 off pbn for the 350-400 mark.... Which i would say is a mighty large upgrade from an Ion.. get your self a used carbon tank and a used upped halo b.... that would range for about 700...

I would much rather have DM over a Ion.... but thats just me

ShadowX
06-09-2006, 09:36 AM
Vike has a good point, But, if you find an ION for 140 all stock used.. I would still get one new for 180 on orderpaintball.. Just becasue you don't always know what people have done to used markers..

And yes, even the 68/3000 fiber wrapped tanks are very cheap.. I picked one up earlier this year for only 100 shipped, and it was a Crossfire and had 2 years left on the Hydro.. Look around for a couple days on PBN and you are bound to find one..

As for loaders.. I just got a Reloader B and I could not be ANY happier.. It is awesome.. Never skips a beat and feeds hella fast..

So, 180 for ION, 140 for Reloader B, and Say 120 for a used 68/3000 tank..

That is around 440-450.. And you could always save some money and get a Halo B.. 105 instead of the Reloader B at 140.. So, all in all, around 400-450 would get you a brand new ION and a brand new Loader and then a pretty decent used tank.. 68/3000 tanks on ION's will get about 700-800 shots..

colonel_moo
06-09-2006, 11:07 AM
yeah, im with Chubbs, get a matrix. you can get a nice proto or DM4 for around 400, or a DM3 for 300. any of them will perform much better than an ion IMO.

Hossy
06-09-2006, 11:32 AM
a friend of mine is selling an ion, if your interested in one Let Me Know by pm.....he could prolly add on a tank and a loader for 400-500


but IMHO go with a used DM

vikingshadow
06-09-2006, 02:42 PM
Personally, I would go for something higher level as well - but I didn't notice he had about 700.00 - I only saw the 300.00. In that case, you can get any number of higher end guns - from shockers to DM's to Angels in the 400.00 range.

Any of which are going to be TONS better than the Ion...IMHO. Then follow the rest for the loader and tank.

pman15
06-09-2006, 03:22 PM
vike,where would u find an ion for like 150$ though,i mean if your lucky theres ebay

vikingshadow
06-09-2006, 04:29 PM
3. Used stock Ion, around 100.00 - 150.00.

I said used - and meant mainly stock. Those are just about everywhere.

I actually have a friend who's trying to sell one for 125.00 - it's actually in great shape having only used it in one tournament and practices. Since new ones run about 180.00-199.00 now, if you buy a used one for more than that without a butt load of ups, I think you got ripped!

bamf-hacker
06-09-2006, 06:48 PM
Ions are not a bad choice if you have 300 bucks to spend on a marker. You can get a NIB Ion and a good bit of up's for $300. Plus IMO Ions are great stepping stones into high end markers. I have an Ion and still want to pick up an Ego before the year is done, not because I don't like my Ion (I love it if you cant tell from my Video's). And when I do get my Ego, the Ion will be the back-up marker.

As for a tank a 68/45 crossy is awesome. IMO I would go for the Halo for the loader. There are much more options for the Halo out and it is plenty fast enough. The Vlocity is nice, but I have heard some negative things, like the opening for the balls is not big enough and you need to cut away some of the loader to make it bigger, I believe this is true, because they already have big mouth after market bodies for the Vlocity.

Well that was my .02 take it or leave it. No matter what you do you will enjoy your new equipment.
HacKeR

divvichild
06-09-2006, 10:42 PM
Viking: I wasnt talkin about the halo when i said ugly, i was refering to the vlocity.

Many of you think i should go with higher end guns like the angel. This is why im not:

Im 16, i have to pay for insurance, gas, and any other things that a 16 yr old needs, money for lunch etc. i make minimum wage, so i cant be buying $500-1000 guns. Plus, i currently have CO2 and a gravity hopper. So upgrades are needed there. as for the tank/hopper, id rather buy new just coz i dont want to deal with issues that might occur, plus i know the owner of my local paintball store well, and she gives me reasonable prices. I need paint everytime i go, so thats $60 for 4000, plus admission, $25, all day air, $10, it can really add up. Good thing summer is coming to that i can pay off a new gun.

thechubbss12
06-10-2006, 03:46 AM
$60 for 4000 !!!!!!!! is it cheap paint?.....

Buddy i promise if you were to get the dm4 you have be much happier with its performance over a Ion...and you not buying it new so its only going to cost you about $400. Which IMO a upped high end gun for $400 is freaking awesome....

I balled everyweekend and i was 15 before i got sponsored i spent $60 on 2000 balls, and 10 dollars on air and and admision.... It adds up the money does but if you love the sport then you gotta pay to play. High end low price is that way to go.... and the Ion is middle end and low Priced (unless madly upped) and isnt your best option.

divvichild
06-10-2006, 02:46 PM
what is a good price for a usd dm4? I think its about $400, but would just like 2 know what u guys think.