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Halucin8
05-22-2006, 08:23 PM
is it worth the trouble to put one in? what is the wieght of the stock one in a new pilot?

BlinkEffect
05-22-2006, 08:43 PM
250g

ooglieboogliebob
05-22-2006, 08:44 PM
250 grams ... it actually is worth it though ...

Sandman_Bravo
05-23-2006, 02:09 PM
I ordered the switch and trigger, should be here this week. I'll let you know if it was worth it. I'm waiting for a Bandit bolt for LP with o-rings, will post on that too.

http://www.sundragonpps.com/paintball_spps_home.html

Halucin8
05-23-2006, 06:16 PM
hey bravo i thought you weren't ahveing any probls with the stock bolt? something change?

Sandman_Bravo
05-23-2006, 06:25 PM
Yeah, I can't get the velocity up where I want it. It's acceptable but I'm obsessive! I'd like to be around 290fps. When I go to the harder main spring it's just too much air and I get ball breaks up into the hopper. (bloody mess) The ones that make it out the barrel curve wildly. The medium/stock spring is best, but I can't get over 260fps.

Hob Hayward
05-23-2006, 06:35 PM
Yeah its weird, I was fiddling with my LP setup at a field, and stuck i nthe hard mai to get my velocity up, my gun turned into a blender, even with the ACS, and my accuracy was crap, it was awful... Swapped back to light, and it was fine.

DRAGON
05-23-2006, 06:36 PM
You know you have valve springs to tune with as well don't you? Want to up the velocity? Put in a lighter valve spring. Increases dwell duration hence higher velocity. May take a stab at efficiency though. Try all combinations(with 3 springs of each you have 9 combinations) and don't forget about the stock springs as well(now 4 springs of each 16 combinations). Since you say you're obsessive that should keep you busy for a while. Don't forget to mark the velocities down every time you change a spring unless you have a photographic memory - -

Sandman_Bravo
05-23-2006, 06:56 PM
I have already tried the various valve springs starting with the hardest and working toward the lightest. The lightest spring works best since the titanium hammer is so light, it gives the best dwell time for volume to flow. It's just a matter of fine tuning it from here, and I thought I might as well replace the bolt and eliminate that possibility. Yes, it's become my hobby of sorts.

Halucin8
05-23-2006, 07:24 PM
well i am going to try and cut 2 grooves in the bolt and see what happens. If it breaks i guess i needed a new bolt anyways. If it doesn't maybe i habve new job LOL.

DRAGON
05-23-2006, 07:41 PM
.............since the titanium hammer is so light...........

Well you never mentioned that, no wonder you aren't getting any velocity. It's just natural that if you have an ultra-light striker you're going to lose dwell duration. Lost dwell duration naturally promotes lost velocity. Not rocket science but a touch of physics. Only way to increase velocity is to increase flow capabilities. There goes more efficiency out teh door lol -

ShieldzyBoy
05-23-2006, 07:44 PM
u can get a 50 g and 25 g switch at circet city and other electronic stores

Sandman_Bravo
05-24-2006, 06:44 PM
Installed the 50g spli-switch and magno-trigger from Sundragon Paintball today. Great products, good instructions, easy installation.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/Sandman_Bravo/Image002.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/Sandman_Bravo/Image001.jpg

bungeye
05-24-2006, 08:45 PM
hey is the 25g switch better than the 50g?

vikingshadow
05-25-2006, 04:10 AM
No, just lighter. I personally don't like the feel of switches below 50 g's. They're just too touchy.

MaGiK ShOt
05-25-2006, 07:00 AM
The 50 gram switch is actually a bit easier. I was thinking about going to Ebay and buying one but i decided to drive to the local paintball storefront and i bought one for 4 bucks. It does make walking the trigger easier without the hassle of putting up with a rocking trigger. It makes the trigger lighter to pull by a lot. I love it and you should too :D