View Full Version : Help with Pilot ACS MODS
05-20-2006, 04:00 PM
Im new to these boards.. I had a few Q's regarding upgrades to my Pilot acs
1: ive read a little bit about T-boards and what they do i was wondering if that be a good upgrade for my stock acs and if so do i need a bounce beam eye? also whats does a bouce beam eye do?!!! that a acs bolt doesnt or cant
2: do i need to get one of those switches for the 50mm or what ever switchs for the trigger to replace my old trigger button
3: where can i get all this stuff done anyone got somones name on here that you can trust to have done
sorry if all this sounds n00b ish...
thanks in advance
05-20-2006, 07:33 PM
05-20-2006, 08:45 PM
1.) The T-Board is just the upgrade board, normally about $40-45 shipped used. It is an excellent upgrade if you want to shoot faster and have more control over what your marker does. The eye logic is very simple: if there's a ball in the breech that either breaks the infrared beam of light (if you have breakbeam eyes installed) or the ball's shell bouncing the IR beam back into the emitter (if you have bouncebeam eyes installed), the marker will be allowed to fire. Bouncebeam eyes are not as reliable as breakbeam in Spyders, but they still work. An eye system will completely eliminate chops if it's done properly. An ACS only prevents them. I think that you should be fine with just the ACS bolt so long as you have a fast-feeding hopper.
2.) 50 gram switches are exactly the same as your stock trigger microswitch, but they have a lighter pull, which makes it easier to shoot faster. There are different types of switches, which are made for different applications. The three main types are the Standard Switch (http://www.x-customs.com/products.html), Lever Switch (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2049718&cp=&origkw=spdt&kw=spdt&parentPage=search), and the Lever Switch with Roller. (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2049719&cp=&origkw=spdt&kw=spdt&parentPage=search) The standard switch is what comes stock on Spyders, and is fairly hard to adjust your trigger to work comfortably with it. The Lever Switch is easier to use if you have a trigger that has set screws to make it more comfortable to pull. Some high-end markers, like the Proto Matrix, use trigger switches of this type. The Lever Switch With Roller is best for just a stock trigger that has no set-screw to activate the switch, and instead just hits the switch. The roller on the lever insures that your trigger moves smoothly during it's travels. When buying one, check to see if it's just the microswitch or if it comes with the lead wires attached. If it doesn't have the leads, then you will need to unsolder the old, and solder on the new, as described in this (http://www.spyder.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=291) walk-through. You do not need a new, lighter one; it's just that some people like it.
3.) Most upgrades are self-installed and most modifications to your marker are self-done. You can pay someone else to do it for you, but why pay when you can do it yourself for cheaper? As long as you follow the directions, you should not have a problem with modifying or installing something on your marker. You might actually enjoy doing some of it. :)
Welcome to the Spyder Forums, and feel free to ask any questions at all, even if you think they're stupid. We're a community of some of the most knowledgable Spyder minds, and if we can't give you an answer, then almost noone can.
05-21-2006, 05:05 AM
yeah, what he said!:yeahthat:
05-21-2006, 12:53 PM
geeze tim...yer getting as long-winded as vike :D ....hi vike :flowerred:
05-21-2006, 08:23 PM
Took me like 15 minutes to do that post lmao. Hardest part was navigating the damned Radio Shack site....they really need to fix it up some....Oh yeah, the reason I came back here was to post this link (http://www.ottersccustoms.com/spyder.html#homemod). Otter's site has all the modifications you can do to a Spyder, and his walk-throughs are of the utmost best. :)
05-22-2006, 03:43 AM
thanks alot man for all the help
05-22-2006, 04:07 PM
No problem dude, anything you need, just ask. :)