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rzimmer17
12-31-2005, 11:21 AM
i love my fenix, but when it comes to playing winter woodsball it is the least reliable gun out there. it is always chopping paint, even with using an acs bolt and winter paint. my kid with junk paint and his extra are more a threat, don't know what the issue is

DyNasty9
12-31-2005, 11:27 AM
its cuz when its cold the paint gets really brittle.

ooglieboogliebob
12-31-2005, 11:47 AM
your acs bolt might not be worn in .... it could also be cuz your paints old and it has bumps on it ... or you might be trying to shoot too fast without an aggitating hopper ...

ad0131065
12-31-2005, 11:53 AM
or your using CO2, could be your bore to paint match too.

durrell
12-31-2005, 12:41 PM
How cold are the temperatures you are playing in?
Have you broken in the ACS bolt?
Which "winter paint" are you using?

rzimmer17
01-06-2006, 08:32 PM
My bolt is well broken in i've shot approx 20 cases of paint this summer and fall plus i broke it in well before i used it for the first time. i used artic dusk which some guys swear by in ne wi. temp is in the upper 20's using co2 with a thermal sock and hand warmers to keep it from freezing up my gun. have holes drilled to keep from blow back, i don't have a clue

ooglieboogliebob
01-07-2006, 10:51 PM
well ... it beats me ... but co2 could still freeze up with those thermal socks and handwarmers ... and if it's busting though ... is it busting in the barrel .. or feedneck ?? .. if it's the barrel it's your bolt ... if it's the feedneck it's your hopper... also .. the paint might not fit in your barrel .. and it might be busting from there ... another possibility is that .. your paint could be old, have deformalities ... or be cheap grade paint.. but we'd need more info on that

Sgt Wolverine
01-08-2006, 08:46 AM
It's the co2. Hand warmers and a sock won't do anything. Co2 is a liquid when in the tank. As it is released when shooting the expansion to gas cools the liquid. So, since the tank is being cooled from the inside out the handwarmers won't help. In the cold weather the co2 can't expand fully into gas. You probably notice "snowflakes" shooting from your barrel when you fire. This is co2 that hasn't expanded to gas. This liquid co2 can damage your o-rings and does not maintain operating pressure in your marker. In other words one cylcle you may have an internal operating pressure of 400 psi, the next may be 1100 when normally should be around 800 psi. This can cause lots of barrel or breach breaks (which will look like a chop). The only way to get the marker to work correctly in cold weather is to switch to HPA. Remotes/anti siphon tanks/expansion chambers may help a little, but not enough to notice. I play year round in Minnesota. I've had alot of experience with this.

druid
01-08-2006, 03:27 PM
Click Me I'm a Link for information on "weather" (http://www.spyder.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=470)

butthead
02-10-2006, 07:07 PM
good god, playing in the 20's!!! the paint has to hurt then. even with the reg,. you should ave snowed really bad i know when it is that cold my electra does. ok back to the fenix my friend had the same problem(we were playing in 30 degree weather)and later in the month is was like 50 and it shot as good as my electra. As far as i can tell Fenixs hate really cold weather. I mean it is named after the firebird. :D Oh Yeah try using monster balls or wild strips they have pretty hard shells and you can buy them at wal-mart somewhere

Angel69
02-12-2006, 02:54 PM
rzimmer u from Wisconsin? me tooo!:p what part?