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bungeye
04-29-2006, 05:26 PM
TAKEN FROM A NZ PAINTBALL SITE

Fellow Paintballers! There is a crook in NZ who is scamming kids from their paintball equipment, please help us to end this and get the person responsible behind bars

My name is James (smiley) Luth, I run a store here in the states and have recently also been a victim of internet fraud by someone using the pbnation name "waylander382" originating from your country! I know of 4 others who i have spoken to personally abou this matter, and we are currently speaking to SGT H Fordray at Papakura Stn. If anyone has information about:

CALL #09-272-0900 FOR SGT FORDRAY

either Sydney Goh or the alias "jacob Humphrey" in possesion of these following guns, possibly more

pbnation id hswimpulse
name: Brad Blackwell
phone:828-260-0152
email:thrashdm5@yahoo.com
paypal id:thrashdm5@yahoo.com
(shipped to Sydney Goh
54 The Esplade
Bucklands Beach
Auckland, 1705
New Zealand)
Cobalt to Black with black and Cobalt parts dm5

pbnation id:Worr_27
name is Steven Edgeworth
Phone is 623-512-6416
email is edge27@cox.net
paypal id: monique13@cox.net
(shipped to Sydney Goh
54 The Esplade
Bucklands Beach
Auckland, 1705
New Zealand)
Super Blue Nexxus Ego

Pimponwheels22: name- Joe Aguila
email is Pimponwheels22@yahoo.com
paypal- Cutnklr@aol.com
(shipped to Sydney Goh
54 The Esplade
Bucklands Beach
Auckland, 1705
New Zealand)
megaman intimidator

Matt Konecny
pntmatwgp@comcast.net
Dust Red DM5 w/ Virtue Board
links - img140.imageshack.us/img140/4003/dm5salepic23ss.png
and potentially a few more, i will edit when i have more and accurate information.

the addresses used are as follows;

50a sorrel cre auckland nz 1705

or

54 The Esplanade, Eastern Beach, Auckland New Zealand, 1705

Pleas help SGT H Fordray at Papakura Stn by giving him a phone call. You can keep it anonymous if you wish. just help to get these guns back to there rightful owners.


here is the scam

1. waylander acquires or steals credit card information to conduct the paypal transaction.
2. He makes a contact with someone who is willing to ship overseas, and is quite cordial
3. He requests usps for shipping (they do not offer delivery confirmation for international packages)
4. The paypal transaction is completed, and the marker is shipped via usps or another non fedex or ups shipper
5. The marker makes it to NZ and into the hands of waylander.
6. a couple days goes by, and waylander initiates the "chargeback" process through paypal, stating that he never received shipment.
7. paypal's policy is to side with the buyer, and a chargeback penalty is issued to the victim.
8. the victim attempts to present paypal with a valid signature and delivery conformation, unfortunately usps or global mail deliveries do not do this, only fedex and ups which are significantly more expensive.
9. paypal deny's the victims request citing their chargeback policy, and the victims inability to provide proof the package has arrived at its destination, date, time, and signature.
10. waylander now has a free gun.

this is a popular scam, and to avoid this, alway ship with a shipper that uses more that signature confirmation, where there is a barcode on the package that is scanned when it has arrived at its final destination.

thank you for any and all information leading to the arrest of this crook

James Luth
Riptide Paintball Co
jamesluth@gmail.com

Hob Hayward
04-29-2006, 05:33 PM
So basicaly if you ship overseas, require people to use fedex or ups.
Thats a helpful post bungeye. I hope no one else gets sucked in by that bastard.

bungeye
04-29-2006, 06:50 PM
yeah even though fedex and ups are more exesive it is a much safer way to buy/sell stuff.

has anyone on these forums been involved in this?

WhatThaSmurf
04-29-2006, 07:40 PM
delete your other post. do it quickly, because if people post, you can't. not that it's not important, we just don't need two.

ttink
04-29-2006, 11:42 PM
O Noes!!! The Megaman Timmy Was Stolen!!! :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

claustrophobia9
04-30-2006, 04:56 AM
yeah even though fedex and ups are more exesive it is a much safer way to buy/sell stuff. false. using usps is using the federal mail service. ups and fedex are simply private parcel services they cannot file mail fraud against someone doing a scam like this. mail fraud is the act of using the united states postal service for scamming people (ie sending fake letters, stealing trades like this, etc) so basically this guy has commited a federal crime which is punishable to a much greater extent than simple fraud that he would be charged with for fedex or ups. i strongly recomend using usps as a deterant in the united states to possible mail frauders. i say DONT EVER ship over-seas, as the seller it is incomvientent anyway.

phatphil
04-30-2006, 05:32 PM
I will never ship overseas anyway, too much of a hassle.

nbishop66
05-01-2006, 04:44 AM
Smiley my man, my parts in yet? I never thought I'd see you in a Spyder Forum. I'll be in touch this week.

DFSniper
05-01-2006, 06:53 AM
O Noes!!! The Megaman Timmy Was Stolen!!! :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:
my first thoughts too!

bungeye
05-04-2006, 12:53 AM
Hey good news...

It seems that this matter has been resolved. The nz paintball community and the NZ police have found the guy and are in the process of getting the guns back to their rightful owner.

What is the lesson here???
1) Dont sell stuff overseas, and if you do pay extra money so you know if it has arrived at the destination.
or
2) That the US Police dont care about paintball guns and say they cant do anything about it, and its not till nz police get on to it that the problem is fixed.

we will neve know

nbishop66
05-04-2006, 04:52 AM
Bungeye, I know Smiley (Jim) very well. He told me a couple of days ago that these bastards had been caught. Other US Government Agencies were getting involved. Apparently they take this very seriously. He got these guys on internet fraud. The positives with shipping UPS/FEDEX are the fact that you can ship with signature required which proves that the product was delivered. Like Smiley said USPS doesn't offer that.

I told him someone had posted his thread on the spyder forum, he wanted to tell you thanks for spreading the word.

bungeye
05-05-2006, 12:33 AM
was it more than one person hu was rippin people off?
no one on the nz forums know anything about it, well if they do they dont tellanyone.

o and the whole US police nt doin anything was a joke, i didnt mean it.

druid
05-05-2006, 04:46 AM
NZ huh? Isn't a major staple of NZ life fishing? Solution...drag them out onto a boat and throw them in as bait

bungeye
05-05-2006, 02:23 PM
haha nice idea. or even better, throw a huge as hook thru his muth, with the sharp bit still pinting out, tie hands and feet together, let about 50m of line out, and drive forward. Live bait fishing is always fun