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Zenin
04-18-2006, 10:48 PM
I haven't given up on my custom butt stock/e-trigger mod (http://community.livejournal.com/paintballers/182767.html), however I have gotten a little side tracked. :-)

New butt stock that fits the existing grip setup.
New tank mount along the gun body.
(coming soon) dual offset scope rails.

Here you can see the stupidly huge 30mm 3-12x zoom scope. -I really didn't grasp how large this scope was going to be when I ordered it...it's massive, but I like it! This is a BSA AR312X40 (http://www.bsaoptics.com/productdetail.asp?ID=441&Prod_Code=AR312X40) scope that I picked up on sale for $30. I do plan to zero it in for ~40 yards, but mostly I intend it to be a sighting scope not a target scope. I have a set of cheap haze filters (http://www.bsaoptics.com/productdetail.asp?ID=573&Prod_Code=Hazefilters40AO) on order too, more to help protect the scope from paintballs then help with haze. I'll be putting this scope to the right side of the feed tube. To the left of the feed tube will be a BSA RD30SB (http://www.bsaoptics.com/productdetail.asp?ID=516&Prod_Code=RD30SB) 30mm 1x Red Dot scope (should arive tomorrow along with my Weaver rails). It also only ran me $30.

(click to enlarge pics)
http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0823_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0823.jpg)
http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0824_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0824.jpg)

A couple shots of the new tank mount (built for a 12oz, although I could maybe bend it for a 16oz but why?)
http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0826_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0826.jpg)
http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0825_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0825.jpg)

Home built stock from left side. Not too pretty, but very functional and will look much better once painted black.
http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0827_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0827.jpg)

DFSniper
04-19-2006, 12:06 AM
nice. i would use macro, but with the co2 it might burst. awesome paint job and stock!

DRAGON
04-19-2006, 12:07 AM
Nice work, DRAGON's impressed. So you gonna tap that bottle straight into the side of the VA or what? -

thechubbss12
04-19-2006, 03:30 AM
Ahh thats kind cool.... Looks you spent some time on this buddy.

OtterSC
04-19-2006, 04:09 AM
excellent!

one suggestion that i would make is to angle the back end of the bottle down just a little to keep the liquid in the bottle instead of getting into the marker.

other than that, great setup.

bamf-hacker
04-19-2006, 04:19 AM
Sweet Mod!!!

Now start posting your services to mod markers and the scenario guys will eat it up.

HacKeR

03TiburonGT
04-19-2006, 04:24 AM
excellent!

one suggestion that i would make is to angle the back end of the bottle down just a little to keep the liquid in the bottle instead of getting into the marker.


Thats a great idea, unless your tank is antisyphoned, I would put it on an angle. It would serve as a make-shift antisyphon and would probably help balanace the marker out better. Thats some nice looking work there, it's going to look awesome when its painted.

Zenin
04-19-2006, 09:58 AM
Nice work, DRAGON's impressed. So you gonna tap that bottle straight into the side of the VA or what? -
Thanks!
Taping to the side of the VA would be sweet, but I don't think I could get away with it (needs at least an expansion chamber I'd assume or I'll be spitting liquid CO2 at my foes).

I'm thinking I'll run the line back down to the expansion chamber and/or get a Palmer's Stablizer. Only reason the hose isn't in the pic is because the stock tube won't reach and I can't seem to find metric hose anywhere? I'll probably have to convert to english threading. :-P

excellent!
one suggestion that i would make is to angle the back end of the bottle down just a little to keep the liquid in the bottle instead of getting into the marker.
other than that, great setup.

Thanks!
Hmm, good idea on the angle. I hate to do it though...ruin the look. Do you think an anti siphon tube like 03TiburonGT suggests would solve the problem? BTW, your anti-siphon page is missing but the Archive.org still has it (http://web.archive.org/web/20050308210947/http://www.ottersccustoms.com/antisiphon.html) thankfully (btw, love your site!).


Sweet Mod!!!
Now start posting your services to mod markers and the scenario guys will eat it up.

Thanks!
...What is this "mod markers" you speak of? Another forum/site?

Thanks everyone.

bamf-hacker
04-19-2006, 10:29 AM
Thanks!
...What is this "mod markers" you speak of? Another forum/site?



No just post here in the B/S/T that you can modify markers for a cost...

:)

HacKeR

OtterSC
04-19-2006, 10:41 AM
yes, i removed that site due to possible legal issues that may come about that i don't want to get involved with. but it could work.

i was not suggesting an angle more than 10*. 5* really. and then utilize a short antisiphon.

i think a tank at an angle of more than 10 would be in the way of you holding the grip.

Zenin
04-19-2006, 11:25 AM
i think a tank at an angle of more than 10 would be in the way of you holding the grip.

Yep, that's my dilemma now. The width of a 12oz bottle is more or less exactly the hight of the marker's body. As the bottle is mounted now it rests ontop of my hand and is a little anoying (I like to shoot with my middle finger, resting my index finger along the gun...but that doesn't work with this bottle in the way). If I angle it down it will only be worse..

On the top side the sight rail will be right over the current bottle location, again no real room left. *sigh*

I could switch to 9oz tanks...but I'd have to buy a few and every dollar I put into this tank setup is money I could be spending on a future HPA+remote setup (and yes, I'm a chick for wanting a remote, but I don't care).

I guess the best thing to do is first add an anti-siphon to my tank and see how well that works out. I hear great things about Palmer Stablilizers helping keep liquid out of the gun so maybe going down that road would help too.

Zenin
04-19-2006, 11:50 AM
Ok guys, what about this plan:

Take a look at the female stabilizer (http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/catalog_images/STAB-BL.JPG) design. To the right on that page is this picture:

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/catalog_images/STAB-BL.JPG

It's a right side view of this stabilizer used in a bottom line setup...but make believe it's a top view :). What I'm thinking is instead replacing the stock bottom line I'm using for my conversion with one of these. My thinking is that with that side-output facing UP when I mount it to the side of my gun it should greatly help the liquid CO2 problem because the gas wouldn't be traveling directly downhill. Or am I thinking wrong?

I also figure should this whole side mounted tank plan fail the female version is cheaper then the male by $20...I'd just mount it under or in my gun's stock and run the remote to it and from it directly into the ASA (or would that be too far from the reg to the valve to be efficient?).

ricochet08
04-19-2006, 06:06 PM
:jawdrop:
that's nice....hella nice :D

Zenin
04-20-2006, 12:10 AM
Following up on my wacky Spyder mods (http://www.spyder.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=2826), my red dot scope and Weaver rails came
in and I more or less finished the scope mounts. After getting the scopes
on the gun I decided the stock wasn't low enough so I rebent it a bit and
now the gun lifts right into line for the red dot with barely any need to
tilt my head. Nice!

If you notice the zoom scope is tilted nearly 45 degrees to the right. This
is intentional. Because that scope is so far to the right it's very
uncomfortable/unnatural to move my head over that far. So instead I angle
the gun to the left about 40 degrees and it lines right up. Shouldn't be
enough to affect the ball feed much (and I won't be spraying while looking
through that scope anyhow). A quick flick of the wrist switches me between
the red dot and the scope. I like. :-)

(click pics for full size)

http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0828_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0828.jpg)
http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0829_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0829.jpg)
http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0830_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0830.jpg)
http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0831_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0831.jpg)
http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0832_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0832.jpg)
http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0833_small.jpg (http://www.rhps.org/stuff/paintball/zen2/PICT0833.jpg)

DRAGON
04-20-2006, 02:09 AM
I'm just knowin you have beefcake arms if you actually plan on carrying that thing around the field lol. Seeing that plastic trigger frame in the vice like that makes me cringe. Can you say, crack!?If you're going to put a Palmer's on it why not straight into the VA? All you'd need to do is flip the 90* elbow on the stabe upward and attach the line directly from the ASA to the elbow. You could even fit a q/d in there with some stainless line. Install a gauge on the left side and you're golden.

Zenin
04-20-2006, 09:27 AM
The trigger frame is cast aluminum actually. Although considering it's cheap pot metal plastic might be stronger. :)

I'm not sure what you mean by running the Palmer directly into the VA? What I'm currently planning on doing is replacing the bottomline you see in the pics above with a palmer, the elbow coming off the top pointing forward. -I want it off the top to help prevent liquid CO2 in the system. From there I'll run hard line down to one of these ASA adapters (https://palmer-pursuit.com/ecom/product_info.php/cPath/69/products_id/382) (in place of the expansion chamber).

At least that's the working plan. We'll have to see how it works out once the parts get here.

Oh...and yes...this bugger is getting heavy, but no worse then a real assault rifle. :)

redlantern
04-20-2006, 02:02 PM
Crazy.

MatthewTheTheif
04-20-2006, 04:04 PM
wow...thats really nice, ive never seen a tac spyder done so well, congrats

druid
04-20-2006, 09:01 PM
I'm just knowin you have beefcake arms if you actually plan on carrying that thing around the field lol..

he's gonna recruit FREDPO to wheel it around for him:D

SparkyGT
04-22-2006, 12:28 PM
Hmm interesting project, looks like you shoot left handed?

tex
04-22-2006, 02:22 PM
Wow!! I've never seen a spyder set up that way before. I give you lots of credit to attempt that. I dont have the knowledge to do that sort of thing. Oh and I dont think your a chick if you have a remote lol. I've got one!!!

Zenin
04-22-2006, 09:36 PM
Hmm interesting project, looks like you shoot left handed?
Nope, right handed actually.

timbertiger20
04-23-2006, 10:47 AM
That was the one comment I would've made. It looks like it designed for a lefty. I would've switched and put every thing on the other side. See the issue is you have alot of stuff exposed when you lean around the right side of any kind of bunker. Gives a huge opportunity to take a marker accessory hit!

Zenin
04-23-2006, 09:56 PM
Hmm, good point. The scopes I couldn't really change ('need the red dot located for best use). The bottle I could move though...hmm, might help balance it out better right to left. Maybe I'll try that when my Palmer comes in since I'll need to make a new bracket anyhow.

Sandman_Bravo
04-25-2006, 02:17 AM
Looks great I think. I'm in the process of making my Pilot a woodsball/scenario gun myself, it's good to see other people choosing Spyders for the same. I like the paint job; I'm going to do the same and get rid of this red-black fade color. I opted for a red dot scope on mine:
http://www.spyder.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=2676

ttink
06-02-2006, 06:37 PM
That looks rad dude! its beggin for a new feedneck though! with all the crawling and jumping around you'll prolly be doing with that, the platic neck will probably break! nice work though, keep us posted.

Sandman_Bravo
06-03-2006, 04:34 AM
very nice, it's satisfying to fabricate your own stuff isn't it?

thebiest
06-21-2006, 09:47 PM
do you know what i like about canada? both metric and standard are easier to find than dirt.
do you know what i like about alberta? were ontop of the world baby, yea, that is right

MatthewTheTheif
06-22-2006, 06:14 AM
are you gonna use a regular hopper, or are you gonna go warp-drive to keep it low profile?

claustrophobia9
06-22-2006, 06:20 AM
this thread is 2 months old... im sure hes already done

killerpinecone
06-22-2006, 07:23 AM
lol, i am sure its finished

Ace24
07-02-2006, 10:16 PM
I wanna see what he did with it! This is by far the coolest customisation I have ever seen to an Xtra. Although it looks bulky.. I would have opted to put the co2 with a remote... that way you cut back on the accessory bulk and the chance of a gun shot.