View Full Version : OK I want a pump... Help!

12-30-2005, 05:28 PM
Ok I think I want to get a pump. What I need to know is how much will it set me back? What kind should I get? And where do I go to get it.

I am not big on the 12g so I am looking for one that uses a tank. C02 or High Pressure Nitro.

Help me oh Pump Marker Gurus!

12-30-2005, 09:37 PM
It all depends on how much you wanna spend... Trracers and Maverics go for $40-50. After that theres cocker pumps which you can get for right around $200, give or take. Then theres phantoms, with many configurations. These will go in the $200-$300 range depending on accessories, anno, setup, etc. If your really ambitous, Carters are like $600, and theres plenty of Palmers pumps that are very high quality in the $500 and up range. Of course, a PGP will run $60-$90 in most cases, or there are other Sheridan style pumps avalible for under $200 including the p-68 sc, and p-68 at (auto trigger). Theres more, that im sure ive forgotten, bu pick a price range and it will be easier for us to help you pick.

12-30-2005, 10:22 PM
I'd recommend the Traccer, Maverick, or Kingman Hammer as a starter pump. As for the tank, you can get a 3.5/4oz for $20-$25, or a 13ci/3k or 22ci/3k for a little under $100 if you need HPA. From experience though, hammers seem to run better on CO2.

Check the Pump B/S/T on Pbnation, SCP, and MCB.

Recon by Fire
12-30-2005, 11:38 PM
If you want small/light and cheap go with the Maverick. I got a Hornet nd I love the little thing! Not done getting it ready though either.

If you want something mid priced and lots of custom options go with a wgp sniper, maybe a used Chipley.

If you want something small/light and good go with a Phantom. I just like the small size of the Nelson based pumps!

12-31-2005, 04:27 AM
200ish is going to be my range.

Where do I get one, I would rather not get one from PBNation. To many unscrupulous people there and don't want to get screwed. I don't know enough about pumps and it would be easy to dup me.



12-31-2005, 05:08 AM
$200 I think would get you the basic model Phantom I believe. PM Otter and ask him he's got a listing of prices on his site also.

You could also get a sniper 2 (autococker pump) in that area also.

Go to www.stockclasspaintball.com and click on there forum's and look for there buy/sell/trade section and browse around. You will probably see some familiar names there also!


12-31-2005, 08:56 PM
OK I think I have narrowed it down to a Phantom.

What is the difference with the VSC ones and the others? And for the matter what are the differences with all of the Phantoms?


Recon by Fire
01-01-2006, 01:52 AM
All the Phantoms are the same marker, their only difference is the type of feed they have (stock or using a hopper) and wether you are running 12grams or CA. The rest are cosmetic differences in grips, barrel length, etc...

01-01-2006, 02:50 AM
Recon got it. CCI offers all the accessories that you need to make any type of configuration you want. stock feed or direct feed. back bottle or bottom line. internally, every Phantom is the same. except for maybe minor changes to the new models. but, the Phantoms really have not changed since it was created.

there are no upgrades for the Phantom. though, i think Airsoldier makes some custom items. also, many of the popular barrel manufacturs makes a barrel for it. though, i have not experienced any barrel out shoot the stock barrel. makes Brass Eagle paint look good! i have been able to out get much better accuracy as compared to a Tippmann Flatline at long distances.

tech support is excellent. nearly 100% of the time that you call CCI and talk to a human, it is the owner. real nice fellow.

my CCI prices (http://www.ottersccustoms.com/price-cci.html) - if you don't see something on CCI's website that i do not have a price for, let me know.

01-01-2006, 08:01 AM
phantoms are just upgraded hammers, mavericks, trracers blah blah blah

So get a hammer or maverick or tracer etc. see if you like it, sell it (resale is the same as youbought it for) then buy a phantom, if oyu dont like it (resale is almost the same).

01-01-2006, 08:40 AM
I would suggest a hopper fed back bottle setup phantom for your first. I would recommend getting the 45 grip frame as oppose to the M16 frame just in case you want to upgrade to vsc with t-stock or any other configuration.

And as far as barrel's go I have no clue why anybody would want anything but the stock barrel! It is the best barrel out there for the marker imo! I use the 11" one and just slap the correct detent ring and your good to go!

Then once your used to it you can meet up with some scp'ers for a southeast pump event somewhere in your part's!

01-01-2006, 07:43 PM
OK I think I am going to go with the 1101-V-45-00.

Does the barrel length mean that much? Do I want the 14" or stick with the 11"?

Also does the cold effect Pumps using C02? and if so can I use HPA?

Sorry for all the questions but I want to get the right thing.


01-01-2006, 07:55 PM
K I have no idea what the 1101-v-45-00 is but if it's a phantom it's a good choice lol:D

Barrel length is preferance really. I use the stock 11" barrel and love it!

I don't know about the cold yet. I wouldn't think so really but I would make sure that you get your tank filled the day prior to playing and not on the same day and you should be ok. Might want to get a neoprene cover for it and if it's really cold those foot warmer thingies but not really necessary.

Question's are alway's welcome in the pump forum as I love seeing new post's in here!


01-01-2006, 07:59 PM
The 1101-v-45-00



01-01-2006, 08:03 PM
That's pretty nice. It's got a vertical asa so you will have to invest in a 3.5 oz or 4 oz tank.

Don't forget to get a set of detent ring's also. There a lifesaver.


01-01-2006, 08:09 PM
so the back bottle may be better for me. Less to buy, since I already have a few C02's 9 and 20.

And it is less money...

The detent rings are to match paint/bore right?

And if I get a loader type, how hard is it to go to the 10-15 round tube (stock class?)


01-01-2006, 08:14 PM
Yeah honestly I would start off with back bottle, 45 grip and either center,left or right feed. That way you don't invest so much right off the bat in pump play. You can also if you wanted turn the back bottle into a bottomline setup quite easily too. Just depending on your preference!

Yes the detent ring's are used to hold a ball in place after you have place one in the chamber. They stop the ball from rolling out of the barrel as the barrel is really like .691 bore size. There are four ring's in a set x-small, small, medium and large. Definitely a must.


01-01-2006, 08:23 PM
Hey you might want to pick up a velocity adjuster tool also. You adjust the velocity by turning a screw on the bolt. The tool allow's you to do this without taking the barrel off. There like six buck's.


01-01-2006, 08:35 PM
To go from a loader to a stock class feed, you need to buy these parts:
- Stock Class Breech ($28)
- Horizontal Feed ($15 black, $20 clear)
- Screw for Horizontal Feed ($0.25)
- 10 or 15 round feed tube ($11.99 or $12.99)
- Feed cap ($3.85 black, $5.99 clear)
- Ball retainer ($0.50)

So total would be $59.59 - $67.73 (depending on feed tube length and color) to convert it to stock class if you want to down the road. Installing the parts themselves is cake.

I took those prices from Wevo http://www.wevopaintball.com/pumppaintball.html, but Otter's will be about the same.

01-02-2006, 03:14 AM
Hey you might want to pick up a velocity adjuster tool also. You adjust the velocity by turning a screw on the bolt. The tool allow's you to do this without taking the barrel off. There like six buck's.


actually, all Phantoms should come with a rod to adjust the Phantom. i have yet to see a new one without.

as for barrel, either an 11 or 14 is good. 8" is for indoor play.

as the above ones have said, the back bottle is what i would lean to with a 9oz tank. if you have a 4oz, then the verticle mount is great for balance.

and correct with the detent rings. helps to keep the marker from double feeding. i include them free with those that purchase from me.

01-02-2006, 05:11 AM
Oh cool I didn't know the adjuster came with it.


01-02-2006, 06:04 AM
yes, it should. i have had seen a few used ones from ebay not have them.

basically, it is a rod that would fit down any Phantom with a 14" barrel.

01-02-2006, 03:47 PM
OK I am going to try a pump from a friend of mine. Since I my car accident and my wrist issues, I cant pronate/supinate (twist my wrist) well. So I want to see if I can pump the pump with out pain. If so I am all about the new Phantom. Otter, should I PM you or e-mail?