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umich2950
04-03-2006, 07:54 PM
I've seen a ton of posts on the best barrels, but not many on the length. I'm new to paintball, I play mostly in fields and woodsball, and would probably consider myself a front player. I'm looking for good accuracy without compromising range, but would still like to stay mobile. So, what do you recommend/prefer, 12" or 14"? Thanks.

ooglieboogliebob
04-03-2006, 08:26 PM
... yeah 12-14 most likely .. i like playing with 12 inch .. just my person preference though ...

Alex228
04-03-2006, 09:11 PM
I have a 14in Teardrop, its very nice.

Muddytaco
04-03-2006, 09:23 PM
I had a 14" front for my freak kit now i have a 12", I like the 12" better.

bamf-hacker
04-04-2006, 05:04 AM
I use a 14" tip most of the time and like it a lot.

HacKeR

marvin-martian
04-04-2006, 11:32 AM
12s and 14s shoot the same. buy whichever suits your style of play.

davidthegr8
04-04-2006, 12:18 PM
21 inch barrel ftw.... not really i think 14 inch is the best

adrianm1188
04-04-2006, 01:38 PM
12.

Team Ramrod
04-04-2006, 01:48 PM
100% preference. Whatever you like and are used to.

ooglieboogliebob
04-04-2006, 04:41 PM
^^ ... not true .... if it gets under 10" .. the air can't expand enough ... and for above 14" ... it's just being a gas hog ...

marvin-martian
04-04-2006, 04:50 PM
we were refering to the 12 and 14s since those are what the original poster was asking about.

umich2950
04-04-2006, 05:00 PM
I appreciate the replies. I think I've got it narrowed down to a 12" J&J Pro-1, 12" SP Teardrop, 14" SP Progressive 06, and either a 12" or 14" CP .689. The new progressive looks awesome, but I can't find any reviews on it. Has anyone used it?

NB_Hacker_NB
04-04-2006, 05:32 PM
They really only make anything above a 14" to try and get you to think that the longer it is the more accurate.The only reason people buy it is to get their marker to have a real "sniper" look, or they believe the first sentence.

Zenin
04-04-2006, 07:37 PM
I've seen written a few places (when googling for barrel FAQs) that longer barrels are generally quieter. Any truth to this?

I'd sacrifice a bit of air efficiency to be a little more sneeky, sneeky. :)

MetDTHero
04-04-2006, 07:51 PM
^^ ... not true .... if it gets under 10" .. the air can't expand enough ... and for above 14" ... it's just being a gas hog ...

wrong...

I use a 16...no diff between my 12, 14, 16 tip in air eff.

16's if you play a lot of air ball...pushing/ moving bunkers...ftw

Eaglelox
04-05-2006, 06:40 AM
i shortened my JJ to be 10". i feel i can swing side to side faster whe playing a close game.

Hob Hayward
04-05-2006, 03:16 PM
I'd suggest the new SP progressive. It's better than the teardrop now, and has a teflon coating now, so I beleive it may be closer to the ceramic as far as chop clearing. I think if you want a good barrel for a low price Definately get the new progressive. It can't be any worse than the old one, and even if its the same barrel, you still got a great barrel.

umich2950
04-05-2006, 03:24 PM
I'd suggest the new SP progressive. It's better than the teardrop now, and has a teflon coating now, so I beleive it may be closer to the ceramic as far as chop clearing. I think if you want a good barrel for a low price Definately get the new progressive. It can't be any worse than the old one, and even if its the same barrel, you still got a great barrel.

I see that you've got a 14" Teardrop, would you suggest the 14" over the 12"? Thanks again.

ooglieboogliebob
04-05-2006, 07:41 PM
wrong...

I use a 16...no diff between my 12, 14, 16 tip in air eff.

16's if you play a lot of air ball...pushing/ moving bunkers...ftw

Actually .. the 16 inches have too much space ... so to shoot the same fps you need to compensate with the air ...

But yes .. if you use 800psi constantly .. both will shoot the same ... the 16 won't shoot as far though.



And to that other person .. 16 inch doesn't make it quieter ... it's the porting on the barrel ...

Cobalt60
04-09-2006, 10:52 AM
Getting the exact barrel length is a science. If youre not running LP, 12 should be fine. basically, an optimal setup would have enough unported length to allow the paintball to accelerate to the proper speed. And then some porting to quiet it down. According to www.ottersccustoms.com, I think it was mentioned 8-12 inches of no porting, and an additional 2-4 with porting and used for guidance. The longer lengths being better for low pressure since the ball accelerates more slowly. Im using a Lapco BigShot which has about 10 inches of no porting, then about half an inch of porting, running at 350psi, and it shoots great. The barrel is 11.5" long but the last inch is a much larger bore and does not touch the paintball, so really its like a 10.5". Point being 12" is fine, but try to get at least 8" of no porting, and if you want to run LP, 10" of no porting. This is of course arguable but at least Im putting some science behind what Im saying.

vikingshadow
04-09-2006, 11:57 AM
12-14 = no difference in accuracy or efficiency. All preference. How do you want it to look, is the question you should ask yourself.

16" - jury's still out on air efficiency. If there's any difference, it's minimal. It doesn't take much more, if any, to push a ball 2 inches further down the barrel. Actually, the way my mind's wrapped around it, the ball's already moving, so there is no need to "push" it further. Barrel tips tend to be larger than the back, so I don't think it would matter. Also, it's a well known fact that only the first 6-8 inches of a barrel are necessary to get the ball moving towards the appropriate target and for air efficiency, the rest of the barrel is for guidance and noise reduction, the last of which is my opinion. Now, if you want better efficiency, matching the ball the barrel is much more important for that aspect of paintball.

16" is a good size to push around bunkers in speedball, and to poke through underbrush, though I agree with Eagleox and prefer 12 inches because it seems I can wield it a lot better and get more balls on target faster with that size. Again, it's just my preference.

As far as noise, I do think that the longer barrels do tend to be quieter IF there's enough porting. My Infinity barrel is long (14") and makes the Angel sound LOUD. But I put on a 12" freak with an AA front and it's MUCH quieter than the 14" one. Look for porting, if you're looking for noise reduction.

marvin-martian
04-09-2006, 01:00 PM
vike...i always love reading your write-ups.

Cobalt60
04-09-2006, 05:43 PM
If you plan on running low pressure, Id say go with the 14", and dont over do it on the porting. Although 8" gets the ball accelerated to the appropriate velocity in a HP setup, that distance increases as the pressure lowers. I got away with a short barrel on my LP setup because it has less than 1/2" porting (Lapco BigShot). But a typical barrel has a fair amount of porting, say you have 4" of porting on a 12" barrel, that leaves 8" for the ball to actually accelerate, which as far as Im concerned is not enough for LP, especially pressure below 350psi. So, do you have any interest in running low pressure? Benefits are increased gas efficiency, less ball breaks, smoother operation, quieter operation, and some say greater accuracy. Downsides are cost/time and cycle speed is slightly slower.

Cobalt60
04-10-2006, 09:01 PM
I should add, another important benefit of LP is that in the winter, CO2 works pretty good. No recocking or velocity problems since shooting pressure is lower than the winter can drop the pressure of CO2 tanks. Also, another very noticeable benefit is how quiet your gun can become running at LP.