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03-28-2006, 11:13 AM
does anyone have their own fill station at home?? can you share detail pictures??
03-28-2006, 03:35 PM
I don't know exactly what your looking for. If you just want to see what one looks like this is my 80cf 3000psi scuba station that I take to the woods with me.
03-28-2006, 04:16 PM
SWEET~~~~~~ that is what i was looking for!! :D :D :D thanks
03-31-2006, 04:11 PM
how do u fill ur tank? if u get some1 eslse to do it how much does it cost?
03-31-2006, 05:46 PM
... well co2 it's usually 4 dollars for 20oz .. 3 for 12 ... 2 for 9 .. and the for HPA it's usually 1 dollar for every 1k psi ...
you should probably get someone else to fill it though .. expecially if your underage ... or immature ... could cause serious injuries if it's not done right ...
03-31-2006, 07:42 PM
The local hardware store fills the scuba tank for 6 dollars if its empty. Most of the time if there is like 2000psi in it yet, they only charge 2 or 3 dollars. But me and my friends can shoot atleast 3 cases of paint from the scuba refills so we just fill it and take to the woods.It saves money in the long run + we play sundays and the store isn't open sunday's so this keeps us in good shape with air for a day.
04-03-2006, 08:03 PM
OK, wtf. I'm glad i came across this thread. For a month now I've been looking into a personal HPA setup. Yesterday I finally found a place in madison that does scuba fills. The conversation that i had with the guy was a bit depressing tho. I asked him about owning a 80cf scuba tank and how much to get them filled and he said $7. Then i asked him out of curiousity if he had a fill adpter for hpa tanks and he said no cause they dont get enough people coming in to be worth it (i thought these things are like $50, how are they not worth it?)
Anyway, the thing that dissapointed me is that he said it isn't worth it to use a scuba tank as a personal fill station... he said something about the pressure would dramatically drop when i start filling the hpa tank because it's trying to even out the pressure or something. So it's like i wouldn't be getting everything that is in the tank, just not making it worth my while. I hope that makes some sort of sense the way i typed it. This guy is the scuba instrutor there, so i feel his explaintion should be valid. But then how do you guys do it? How many tank fulls do you get on a single scuba? Is it really worth the trouble? As you can tell, I'm competely confused and frustrated. I really want to switch to hpa but now I think i'm starting to shy away from it. :help: :confused2:
Sorry for jacking the thread:o
04-03-2006, 11:48 PM
Well.......he's right.......kind of. Each time you refill off of a scuba the tanks equalize. So if you have 3000 PSI in the tank and you refill a 68 cu in tank at 2000 psi. There is a large calculus equation associated with this that I never found an answer to. Anyways........the results......from 6-20 fills depending on size, above 2000psi. 2-3 people can play off of a scuba as long as your careful and don't shoot a case an hour!
04-04-2006, 02:43 AM
yeah what timber said....I notice with 48/3000 tanks we get about 10 fills over 2000. after that you gotta really watch your shots per match and fill every round.They are nice to have if there isn't a compressor around and you want hpa but co2 is still more economical for rec ballers.
04-05-2006, 08:22 AM
considering that i'm a very conservative shooter, this setup would work for me, lasting me a long while. I just found a place that does do hpa fills but it is over an hour away, so getting a scuba tank filled would be like saving 9 trips. I think that is worth switching to more consistant hpa. Thanks for the help.
I have an 80lb co2 tank at my field that I can get about 50-60 fills out of depending on the sizes. That 80lb tank costs me $23 to fill. Most will tell you that co2 isn't as good, but I shot compressed air for a summer and didnt notice a difference, it's only my opinion. But all in all for the price difference in the hpa and co2 tanks and the little bit of cost for the 80lb tank, for me I almost have to stick with co2. I also fill for at least 6 people per day that we play.
05-24-2006, 08:03 AM
It all depends on what you are looking for. CO2 wouldnt be a bad option as tex said but you run into problems based on what type of gun you use sometimes. If you like to rip a lot with a full auto or have a rocking trigger you can freeze up your bolt and lines with CO2 because of the low temp and the rate of which it is passing through. There isnt a lot of overall quality it shot difference most of the time but if you pay close attention you tend to get more consistent shots with compressed air, but its not like you are playing a tourney in your back yard so how much does that really matter. Another problem arises is that as the temperature gets colder with the seasons CO2 is a problem especially in the winter again with the cold weather and the properties of CO2. Your alternatives to this would be cascade multiple scuba tanks so that you can distribute the pressure loss over multiple tanks and prolong the amount of fills you can get at higher pressure. You could also look to lease a tank from a welding supplier. You may pay a little more but you can get a higer pressure tank and get more fills out of it. I guess it all comes down to personal air type preference and the kind of money you want to through around up front.
05-24-2006, 08:12 AM
What kind of money does it cost for an 80lb co2 tank like that, and do you need like some sort of permit to fill from one?
05-24-2006, 09:02 AM
Not sure about cost, from general hear say cost is different from location to location. You would have to contact a local supplier for that. As for a permit not that I know of, all risk of personal damage to you or anyone else is assumed by you. You can look the price of a fill station and scale up online though, most pb websites have the stuff needed to fill co2 from a fill station.
05-24-2006, 03:21 PM
my dad has a co2 fill station. i use it a lot though so he will have to get it sent back again