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interceptorMR2
08-16-2009, 12:04 PM
Hey there, so I've been playing guitar with a crappy little 10W crate amp for about 6 years and I think I'm more than ready to move on to a new amp. I like to play some of the harder stuff but not too hard, (Three days grace, Avenged sevenfold), but I'm not really sure what to look for. I want something loud enough to play over drums, something that has good distortion (i heard some amps like Line 6 have fake-sounding digital distortion...) and maybe a few effects thrown in. My budget goes as far as $400. I'm not really looking for something that will just be "enough", if you catch my drift. I want to have an amp that I can expect a lot out of without spending around $1500+ for something like a Mesa Rectifier.

I did a little looking around and heard some great things about this Amp, but like I said, I don't know exactly what to look for.

Ibanez TBX150R
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-TBX150R-Tone-Blaster-Xtreme-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=480945

If anyone out there knows a thing or two about amps, I would appreciate some help. This is going to be my first "real" amp and I want to make sure I make the right choice for what I play. Thanks!

pntballer5634
08-16-2009, 04:23 PM
there's a marshal mini stack, check it, its supposed to be good, i want one. and three days grace makes me feel :flame: :cussing:
and what guitar you got? i got a 2000 les paul classic ( i think discontinued or limited edition or some ****) with humbuckers. plays like a dream

interceptorMR2
08-16-2009, 05:04 PM
I have just an Epiphone Les Paul standard, but I still love it. I can't really afford super nice guitars, but my next target after this amp is a Schecter Hellraiser (with a floyd rose of course). I'll look up the Mini stack for sure. As for TDG, I like em, they aren't my favorite though. They get REALLY repetitive with their lyrics and it gets old.

Edit: mini-stack ain't loud enough, assuming I found the right one. My friend plays his drums a little on the... ear piercing side haha. It said only 15W

TheDarkShadow
08-16-2009, 05:31 PM
the marshall mini stack looks good, I personally love marshalls

50W (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Marshall-MG4-Series-MG50FX-50W-1x12-Guitar-Combo-Amp-581724-i1445067.gc)
30W (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Marshall-MG4-Series-MG30FX-30W-1x10-Guitar-Combo-Amp--Black--105182109-i1435559.gc)
Uber awesome (smouch.net/lol)

I can't find a link to the mini stack...

if you have a guitar center or sam ash near you, go and try some out

interceptorMR2
08-16-2009, 06:20 PM
Wow. just wow. ugh.

Thanks for the first two links. the third one can die in a hole lol

paintballkid0206
08-16-2009, 06:58 PM
and what guitar you got? i got a 2000 les paul classic ( i think discontinued or limited edition or some ****) with humbuckers. plays like a dream

i hate you..... jk. i would love to have a guitar like that. right now i'm "rockin" an Ibanez GAX70. and a $100 Roland Micro Cube amp. people have called that amp "cute"... I need new gear. lol.

back on topic, I'm sorry I can't help much. But I will definately be keeping an eye on this thread, I will want a new amp soon enough.

shunut
08-16-2009, 07:13 PM
I say keep saving and get a nice Marshall, you won't regret it. I had been playing on a cheap 15w solid state Marshall for a while and decided I wanted a new amp. I really wanted something tubular, which are generally more expensive that solid state amps. I bought a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe because I could get one for cheap, $400. Has tons of power, tone is pretty good, but it really isn't what I wanted or needed. I think the best thing you can do is find a local music store and go there and play their amps. Find one that you like the sound and has all the features you want. I would not try to cut corners though and try to find something cheap. Get a good amp. If I could do it over again, I would have just kept saving and got the Marshall that I want.

interceptorMR2
08-16-2009, 07:58 PM
I've heard awesome things about the Marshall amps, but can I still crank out that heavier sound that I'm looking for? I'm pretty into the heavy metal stuff, can the Marshall amps put out that heavy distortion stuff?

DRAGON
08-16-2009, 09:13 PM
Distortion is an affect. Affects are primarily conveyed through a remote electronic device, not necessarily the amp....hence 'distortion pedal'. Multi-effect pedals that have tons of effects are even more fun -

Tube amps are teh shiz. You can have a 50w guitar tube amp that'll shatter your ear drums at like a 5 setting. If you want a decent tube amp at an inexpensixe cost, look up an Ampeg half stack. They'll cost you a bit more than $400 but not quite as much as a Marshall but will easily crack the plaster on your walls -

Frankly, you really aren't going to get much for $400. You might do a little better if you save a bit more and get something decent as shu suggested. It's like those guys trying to save a few bucks by buying a 48/3000 tank then realize they only get about 3-400 shots from them. They'll have to eat the price of that tank when upgrading because not too many people want them unless you sell it used for dirt cheap -

Speaking of used, you might try that route if you're good at bartering prices. I bought about $15,000 worth the equipment(new not used) in the late 90's which isn't really all that much when you're buying into quality stuff. I bought everything at Guitar Center. Bought about everything for less than listed. Depending on how hungry the sales rep are you can wheel and deal with them like you're at a flea market. I got to a point where I just went straight to the manager to buy stuff. The managers at Guitar Center look more at how many pieces he can move per month in his store, not so much how much he can make for his own pocket as a middle man like the floor reps do -

If you're really stuck on just spending $400, try some solid state Fender stuff. It's not really that bad and has a decent sound and good name for resale. It's hardly the equipment you're going to gig a stadium with though. You get what you pay for -

interceptorMR2
08-16-2009, 09:54 PM
Yeah I just got off the phone with a buddy of mine who is a wiz at pretty much anything guitar related, he said don't settle for solid state anything if I want something good out of it. I'm gonna go with tube amp, probably a combo amp cause I'd like to use it more for smaller gigs, our band is just starting out and I don't plan on blowing any places up with any speaker cabinets... but thats great advice you guys, I think I might just hold onto my money a bit longer and save more. I don't think I'll want even a half-stack just yet, a combo is better for lugging around to practices and gigs and what not, but I think since I've been playing for 6 years or more, I probably need something a little more... in my range. Of course, I'm still gonna take a trip to some stores and try out some amps.

Then again, maybe I'll just buy something solid-state for a temporary fix to my problem, I need a new amp pretty bad if I plan on doing any gigs any time soon, so maybe I'll get something simple, but better than what I have (anything is better than my current amp) and still save for a nicer amp.

shunut
08-17-2009, 05:16 AM
A friend of mine has a Marshall that is actually a hybrid, that is awesome. He is able to get any sound he wants out of it, as heavy or as light as he needs. His has a tubular preamp but the output is solid state, it really sounds awesome, and is cheaper than getting something that is all tubes. I believe that the model he has is called a Valvestate.

interceptorMR2
08-17-2009, 09:08 AM
As far as tube amps go, how long do they typically go for until the tubes have to be replaced? I know it depends on certain factors, but is there an estimate in time and possibly cost? One of my friends is suggesting this B-52 tube combo:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/B-52-AT-112-60-Watt-1x12--Tube-Combo-Amp-103733606-i1170731.gc

I'm hoping that when I head into guitar center that they'll have the valvestate so I can try em out but I didn't see them on their site. I like the 50W, looks like a good option for me.Thanks for the suggestions!

DRAGON
08-17-2009, 09:29 AM
Says 60W....regardless, looks like exactly what you're looking for in your price range. Never heard of B-52 but at least you have a warranty from GtrCtr if you get it there. 60W w/1-12" will get you started -

Far as tubes go, they just either go or don't go randomly. Keep at least a couple spares of each handy because they'll prolly go at the least expected moment -

pntballer5634
08-17-2009, 11:11 AM
im sticking with my mini stack, it may be small, but i heard the ****s loud. my dad's sending me a stack ( idk what yet) but im playing on a lil ***** mini amp. i got my expensive les paul, my 200 digitech whammy, my dd3, cs3, and cf 3, my morely pwv, and then.... a ****ty amp!!!

interceptorMR2
08-17-2009, 01:42 PM
Thanks for all the info guys, I think for my first "real" amp I'll have to go up to guitar center and try a few amps out, hopefully they'll have the B-52, and I think I'll look at a marshall as a possible next step.