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bamf-hacker
07-08-2009, 07:59 PM
So after some thought I think I am going to be getting a real firearm.

Went to the range today and shot some guns for the first time and loved it.

Todays guns were:

Springfield Armory XD .40 sub compact
Smith and Wesson 9mm
Raven .25

Here are some pics:



http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6205/07080912367919386.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07080912367919386.jpg)


http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3493/0708091241a7928158.jpg (http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0708091241a7928158.jpg)


http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/2412/0708091241b7933172.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0708091241b7933172.jpg)

Love the muzzle blast on this one. Cant believe my cell phone camera picked that up.

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4028/07080913107949751.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07080913107949751.jpg)

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6787/07080913257954115.jpg (http://img110.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07080913257954115.jpg)

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/59/07080915147958184.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07080915147958184.jpg)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1802/07080915197915250.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07080915197915250.jpg)


Going next week again and shooting another round of guns, including a Glock and SIG p225.

marvin-martian
07-08-2009, 08:09 PM
nice grouping :dodgy:

ive been looking into firearms alot recently, and i think ive narrowed my very first one (when i become of age etc) down to a springfield XD in .40. of course i plan on going to shoot possible guns when the time comes and it can change my mind.

glad you enjoyed the range. i love the shot of the muzzle blast

paintballkid0206
07-08-2009, 08:19 PM
nice grouping :dodgy:

^^lol. yes, very nice. but i think the point is to hit the person everytime. nice try sally. lol jp

Drefish99
07-08-2009, 09:24 PM
You'll shoot yer eye out kid....

bigred76
07-09-2009, 02:08 AM
Get the Springfield, Sig or the M1911. :) Revolvers are also a good choice. Look into a single action as well as a double action. Single action would be safer around kids, but double action is pretty much the standard. The .40 is a good round, but... meh, 9mm is just as good. Also keep in mind the price of ammunition when you are looking at purchasing a firearm. A gun can shoot like a dream and you buy one, only to find out that the rounds are $5/pop. Be careful, Dan.

marvin-martian
07-09-2009, 06:36 AM
ive also heard great things about the CZ 75. i would also check those out

Griff
07-09-2009, 06:41 AM
Take a look at an HK in 40 or 9mm usp but the XD is a tuff gun that has earned alot of respect quick.

marvin-martian
07-09-2009, 06:43 AM
HKs are a little pricey...

Moe
07-09-2009, 07:02 AM
My Rem 597 kills everything that I need killed. :D

RSX99
07-09-2009, 07:07 AM
You cannot go wrong with Glock. I'm picking up a 23 here soon for a carry weapon. It will double as a work weapon since you really can't tell from a distance, the differences between the 23 and 22.

If you're worried about ammunition expense, check into reloading. I have a few friends that do it and it's very time consuming but worthwhile if you shoot a lot.

DFSniper
07-09-2009, 07:20 AM
I like my dads h&k. 45, its a small gun, but has some decent powet!

kramernator
07-09-2009, 07:36 AM
not to be a downer or anything...but you only hit the red once!! :p

pntballer5634
07-09-2009, 08:34 AM
get the FiveSeven, not sure if there's a civilian model, but the 20 round mag, and the accuracy don't hurt. the mk.23 is cool too, but the 1911 is a nice gun.
try the fiveseven IOM

STRIKEFIRST
07-09-2009, 11:50 AM
I have a XD 40 service - Love it...fantastic customer service from sprinfield.

My little bro just bought an xd 40 sub...and my dad was so impressed with it he went and bought an xd 9 sub.

This weekend my grandfather and great uncle shot my dad's sub and liked it so much they're buying Xd's of their own.

I prefer a 40 over a 9 for stopping power, but a 9 with +P is almost as good.

I prefer the XD over the glock for the grip and feel of the gun but more importantly the safety features.

FYI - my Dad and Brother both paid $479 for their subs (includes the holster, mag loader etc..) brand new.

TheDarkShadow
07-09-2009, 01:39 PM
you may save some money by going to a gun show and buying one their

timmyshoota
07-09-2009, 05:59 PM
Glocks are crap. Don't get an XD. I had one. Its an alright gun, but its just a higher quality Glock. Take anything with a polymer frame off your list of guns to buy.

You can't go wrong with a Sig. Excellent guns. H&Ks are another great choice.

xsvly-fat
07-10-2009, 01:11 PM
That last picture of you shooting looks really sick.

LostCause
07-10-2009, 04:28 PM
get the FiveSeven, not sure if there's a civilian model, but the 20 round mag, and the accuracy don't hurt. the mk.23 is cool too, but the 1911 is a nice gun.
try the fiveseven IOM

^^ dont listen to him...FiveSeven cost wayyy to much, and ammos is a pain in the arse to buy cause its expenseive...gun you have to show off not shoot.

also look into some longguns....

XD doesnt have a polymer frame last i saw......???? never seen one in person though...

agree with Timmy sigs are fantastic guns....

though everyone is saying but a .45 yeah great gun, ammo is going up. 9mm or .40 will do ya fine. specialy since your just looking for a first one.

marvin-martian
07-10-2009, 04:47 PM
^^ dont listen to him.
dot

agree with Timmy sigs are fantastic guns....

specialy since your just looking for a first one.

yes sigs are very nice, but are expensive along with HK. the XD is a more suitable beginners firearm. its relatively cheap and easy to use, and you will learn your gun/shooting mechanics before spending alot on a top end gun.

bigred76
07-10-2009, 04:57 PM
The XD's use polymer frames. The slide and everything else about them is metal, however. They are very durable firearms, and I personally love them. Chris is just butthurt about something. Ignore him.

timmyshoota
07-10-2009, 05:13 PM
The XD's use polymer frames. The slide and everything else about them is metal, however. They are very durable firearms, and I personally love them. Chris is just butthurt about something. Ignore him.

Or you know, I could be talking from experience, you know, since I've owned one.


But nah, let's just discredit anything I post if you don't agree, because most people here will agree with you and ignore what I say. This forum has become completely worthless.

marvin-martian
07-10-2009, 05:15 PM
whats wrong with the XD? ive heard nothing but great things from everyone

timmyshoota
07-10-2009, 05:26 PM
It'd be an excellent gun if it wasn't for the polymer frame. Having the multiple safeties is nice, breakdown is simple, and they hardly ever jam. The DA only trigger sucks, but you learn to deal with it at the range, by preloading the trigger. If I ever had to use it when I needed to be 100% accurate, I would not like the trigger pull. The pull along with the balance/weight of polymer framed guns is why I got rid of mine. Had every intention of buying a Sig P220, and ended up trading for a Taurus 24/7 Pro. Again, polymer frame, same weight/balance issues. I like a heavier gun, and Sigs feel much better balance wise. The H&K USP and HK45s are well balanced IMO for a polymer frame, and if I was going to buy another polymer framed gun, that would be the only choice.

XD prices are also ridiculous. They've become popular, and shot up in price. I bought mine for $420 brand new, ended up selling it months later for $400 with 250 shots, and now they go for $500 USED.

timmyshoota
07-10-2009, 05:30 PM
But I'm only saying this because I'm butthurt. I dunno what I'm butthurt about, but I am, so don't pay attention to me.

marvin-martian
07-10-2009, 05:32 PM
so other than the DA trigger, all you dont like is the balance of the gun? isnt that all preference?

and wow at the price. i didnt know know its shot up so much...

timmyshoota
07-10-2009, 05:37 PM
so other than the DA trigger, all you dont like is the balance of the gun? isnt that all preference?

and wow at the price. i didnt know know its shot up so much...

Correct. I never said the XD is a crap gun, its just got the polymer flaw.

And remember, we are discussing opinions here, so its always gonna be preference. If no one discusses what they do and don't like with the gun, the person who is interested may never realize something they do or don't like until its too late.

bamf-hacker
07-10-2009, 06:59 PM
Thanks for the help fellas.

I will be shooting a SIG next week and I have found one pretty cheap, sub $400.

So we will see if I like it. But I am not buying solely on price. If a gun feels good and shoots good I don't mind dropping a G. Don't get me wrong, if I can get one cheaper I will though.

marvin-martian
07-10-2009, 07:01 PM
oh youre willing to spend that much? disregard everything i said in this thread concerning price.

bamf-hacker
07-10-2009, 07:15 PM
I am willing to spend that much if I have too. If the SIG feels the best in my hands then so be it. But if the SIG and the XD feel the same I am not going for the $1000 gun, just because it is "better"

marvin-martian
07-10-2009, 07:26 PM
p229
Browning Hi-Power
CZ 75
look at them

bamf-hacker
07-10-2009, 07:28 PM
p225 vs. p229

What is the big difference???

timmyshoota
07-10-2009, 09:10 PM
I think you mean P226. Size and ergonomics are the real differences you'll find. I love the 226, but the ergonomics of the 229 don't work with me. The 229 is gonna be a little smaller, a little better for concealment, but if concealment is your plan, look at the P239. It has the ergonomics of the P226, but in a much more concealable size. I'm a small guy, and I can conceal a service model size gun(full size frame, 4in barrel) with no trouble with the right holster.

If you can get a Sig for under $400, and its a P226, P220, P229 or P239, get it. Thats an excellent deal. They go for $750 and up used at gun shows.

I don't know if you said it, but what's your intention for this gun? Concealed carry, home protection?

bamf-hacker
07-11-2009, 05:35 AM
I don't know if you said it, but what's your intention for this gun? Concealed carry, home protection?

to take care of SOC members that make us mad :)


Home/Car protection and range time. I will get my concealed carry so I can have it in my glove box, but I am not likely to carry it on my waist anywhere.

timmyshoota
07-11-2009, 08:11 AM
Do you own a shotgun? I'd looking at picking one up shortly after the handgun to use for home protection. Shotgun is gonna be way more effective inside the home. Concealed carry permit is a good idea to have no matter what. It really saves you from the hassles of carrying. I've done all the work for mine, but haven't submitted the paperwork yet, which I'll do before my next gun purchase.

RSX99
07-11-2009, 02:12 PM
Shotguns are the best choice for home defense.

Muddytaco
07-11-2009, 02:54 PM
Home/Car protection and range time.

If your planning on doing alot of range time go for the 9mm to keep the cost down.

The Beretta 92FS handles nicely if you haven't tried it yet. The cz75 is really nice but not worth the extra cost IMO. I also like the XD line up.


End the end its just like paintball, its all personal opinion on feel.

STRIKEFIRST
07-13-2009, 07:27 AM
It'd be an excellent gun if it wasn't for the polymer frame. Having the multiple safeties is nice, breakdown is simple, and they hardly ever jam. The DA only trigger sucks, but you learn to deal with it at the range, by preloading the trigger. If I ever had to use it when I needed to be 100% accurate, I would not like the trigger pull. The pull along with the balance/weight of polymer framed guns is why I got rid of mine. Had every intention of buying a Sig P220, and ended up trading for a Taurus 24/7 Pro. Again, polymer frame, same weight/balance issues. I like a heavier gun, and Sigs feel much better balance wise. The H&K USP and HK45s are well balanced IMO for a polymer frame, and if I was going to buy another polymer framed gun, that would be the only choice.

XD prices are also ridiculous. They've become popular, and shot up in price. I bought mine for $420 brand new, ended up selling it months later for $400 with 250 shots, and now they go for $500 USED.

$479 is the normal price around me...ALL prices are high right now because of the Obama Affect.

STRIKEFIRST
07-13-2009, 07:28 AM
End the end its just like paintball, its all personal opinion on feel.

This is the best piece of advice in the entire thread.

bamf-hacker
07-13-2009, 10:13 AM
End the end its just like paintball, its all personal opinion on feel.

This is the best piece of advice in the entire thread.



I agree and I am not going to buy a gun on someone else's opinion, I was just looking for a starting point. There are hundreds of handguns in all different calipers and I am trying to narrow my choices down.

Once I have my list the choice will be the one that is the most natural for me to hold and shoot.

STRIKEFIRST
08-04-2009, 02:16 PM
So...has the family grown yet?

HelpDeskHustler
08-04-2009, 02:42 PM
Wait for the UCP from HK... I know some people are going to say 4.6mm is lame, but the thing is supposed to be a real workhorse.

XSiv Force
08-04-2009, 03:15 PM
small calibers are fun i have a ar-15 and an m1 garand (and a few others)love um both

marvin-martian
08-05-2009, 05:10 PM
hows your hunt going?

bamf-hacker
08-05-2009, 07:19 PM
On hold temporally. Need to work on the Wife.

timmyshoota
08-05-2009, 08:25 PM
How much research have you done into safes? Thats probably more important than which gun you choose.

TheRedBarron
08-07-2009, 08:07 AM
How much research have you done into safes? Thats probably more important than which gun you choose.

I agree fully Chris, and would help keep the wife at ease.

This is what I am toting, granted BAMF would not need something like this for 1 handgun, Amsec makes some great small safes as well.

If you have any questions let me know I have over 45 firearms.
Gun Safe (http://www.safeshowroom.com/eShop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=RF6528)

STRIKEFIRST
08-07-2009, 12:29 PM
I want one of the new bed side thumb print entry safes...though my wife wont like me mounting that dude to the wall or night stand!

timmyshoota
08-07-2009, 09:27 PM
I want one of the new bed side thumb print entry safes...though my wife wont like me mounting that dude to the wall or night stand!

I would get one of those if I were to get a safe. Since its just me and my dad here, no need for a safe. If there were younger people, or kids here, I would have one. I also don't have a gun right now, so no need.

bamf-hacker
08-09-2009, 05:21 AM
Its not about the safe. She is not comfortable with the whole idea. I am going to bring her to shot at the range and to play PB with me to hopefully ease her mind. Then I can re-visit the purchase.

TRB, I will talk to you soon!

battlechaser
08-09-2009, 06:12 AM
I agree fully Chris, and would help keep the wife at ease.

This is what I am toting, granted BAMF would not need something like this for 1 handgun, Amsec makes some great small safes as well.

If you have any questions let me know I have over 45 firearms.
Gun Safe (http://www.safeshowroom.com/eShop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=RF6528)

Well.. I know where I'm going when the Zombie outbreak starts. :D

RSX99
08-09-2009, 07:55 AM
Hey Bamf, my wife still doesn't like the idea but she understands my need for me to protect my family. If you have kids, you can try to sell her on that idea.

Gun safe is a must but if you can't acquire one right of the bat you can break down your pistol. Then you can place the barrel, slide, spring and frame throughout your house if that will ease her mind. The only drawback is, the weapon isn't readily available.

TheRedBarron
08-09-2009, 10:59 AM
Well.. I know where I'm going when the Zombie outbreak starts. :D

Well unfortunately the idea of protecting my family became reality, I take home security very seriously. I have a kitchen safe, as well as a mud room safe, both are built into the wall and hidden, one in my office attatched to my desk, and one in the hallway leading to the girls rooms, they are all hidden either in the wall/behind photos or just plain out of site, but the fact is they are there and easily accessible. I carry a concealed .45 with me at all times, and I have a shotgun in the car trunk where the spare tire should go.

It is not paranoia but simply a father that got his family into a mess through his job.

Dan you know how to get me, I am not around as much as I should be, just started another business, and things are as busy as usual.

battlechaser
08-09-2009, 11:21 AM
Well unfortunately the idea of protecting my family became reality, I take home security very seriously. I have a kitchen safe, as well as a mud room safe, both are built into the wall and hidden, one in my office attatched to my desk, and one in the hallway leading to the girls rooms, they are all hidden either in the wall/behind photos or just plain out of site, but the fact is they are there and easily accessible. I carry a concealed .45 with me at all times, and I have a shotgun in the car trunk where the spare tire should go.

It is not paranoia but simply a father that got his family into a mess through his job.

Dan you know how to get me, I am not around as much as I should be, just started another business, and things are as busy as usual.

I'd like to possibly get something like that. But unfortunately, my wife is 100% against firearms (I haven't told her that under certain circumstances, a PB gun could be considered lethal, nor do I plan to :p). If I had my way, there would be a pump action 12 gauge under my bed, and a glock under the pillow.

bigred76
08-09-2009, 11:10 PM
I'm telling, Derek. :dodgy:

Good to see you on, Matt. :tup:

timmyshoota
08-10-2009, 08:36 PM
Well unfortunately the idea of protecting my family became reality, I take home security very seriously. I have a kitchen safe, as well as a mud room safe, both are built into the wall and hidden, one in my office attatched to my desk, and one in the hallway leading to the girls rooms, they are all hidden either in the wall/behind photos or just plain out of site, but the fact is they are there and easily accessible. I carry a concealed .45 with me at all times, and I have a shotgun in the car trunk where the spare tire should go.

It is not paranoia but simply a father that got his family into a mess through his job.

Dan you know how to get me, I am not around as much as I should be, just started another business, and things are as busy as usual.

Let me move in. I'm a good shot. I can be 24hr security.

TheRedBarron
08-11-2009, 03:44 PM
Let me move in. I'm a good shot. I can be 24hr security.

I want someone to protect my children from assailants, not hide behind them and cry.

HelpDeskHustler
08-11-2009, 10:03 PM
I guess we're short on newbies here because this hasn't been said yet...

get a deagle :dodgy:

edit: get two deagles and duel wield them:dodgy: :dodgy:

TheDarkShadow
08-12-2009, 05:24 PM
get an autoshotty too :dodgy:

timbertiger20
09-27-2009, 08:53 AM
I want someone to protect my children from assailants, not hide behind them and cry.

Yeah much better off with a big German Shepherd!

I'm an ex-cop for the moment but I have to say...............I have torture tested my sigs to the limit without failure! I went through 25,000 rounds in a two week period without cleaning it just to see what happend. Nothing ever happened! Damn thing is rediculously reliable and doesn't have the un-needed safety's of some guns. I still perfer DA/SA but they now make alot of DA's. I'm going out today for a little test of the sig 250 which is intriguing. I'd love to have one single gun that converts to whatever I want. From a full size .40 and then switch the top end out and go to a small concealable 9mm. Seams like a dream come true! Alot of the sigs are convertable from one caliber to another so that helps but to change everything sounds like a perfect gun.

BTW I shoot a pair of Sig 226's with Crimson Laser Grips as well as night sights in 9mm +P+ with custom made 115 grn Gold Dot HP with aluminum blazer casings and 18 round aftermarket flush mags. :)