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EpixPB
04-10-2009, 08:17 AM
Ok, so I was thinking about turning my MR-1 into a speedball gun ---->
(full auto and the works), but I was looking around for parts to buy for it when I realized that I needed to get my priorities straight ... there were too many parts to buy and not e'nuff money :eek:

Parts List (please rank them in order of importance) :

HPA Tank

E-Trigger

New Bolt (and what kind)

Regulator (and what the hell they are because i have no idea [they might even be useless])

Block of Aluminum (so i can make a sweet looking mag)

Feedneck (probably CCM)

Hopper/Loader (perhaps even Q-Loader if i have the money)

New Mask

Different Trigger for the E-grip (Magnetic return?)

New Velocity Adjuster
______________________________

List of what I already have:

J+J ceramic edge barrel kit (16")
remote Line
Polished Internals
Stock MR-1
Co2 (don't flame me... its cheaper)



Thanks In Advance!

RSX99
04-10-2009, 08:27 AM
For the amount of money you're going to be tossing into this project you can get an Proto SLG which is a decent speedball gun to start with.

*Actually I just did a little research and this may be just a tad bit more expensive...

EpixPB
04-10-2009, 09:49 AM
For the amount of money you're going to be tossing into this project you can get an Proto SLG which is a decent speedball gun to start with.

*Actually I just did a little research and this may be just a tad bit more expensive...

That is not the point... I'm not going to getting this all at once, it will be amassed over a period of 2-4 months, and I will be playing with it for the entire time.

Not to mention, I don't like the way the SLG looks
;)

Please just rank them and don't question my motives ... I can't put questionable home made mods on a gun that is worth over 100$ stock

Jonathan James
04-10-2009, 12:51 PM
i would get a safe phace mask

EpixPB
04-10-2009, 01:54 PM
i would get a safe phace mask

I said new face mask... i already have one... duh

TheDarkShadow
04-10-2009, 02:04 PM
I said new face mask... i already have one... duh

you already have one... so why did you put it on your list of things to get?

RSX99 wasn't questioning your motives, he was just trying to help. I would have to agree with him though because you are gonna end up with more money in upgrades than what you bought the gun for, and you'll end up with $300 in a $100 gun and at the end of the day, it's still a spyder. if you dont like the SLG buy a used mid-end speedball gun.

I would first get HPA before you buy anything

EpixPB
04-10-2009, 04:32 PM
you already have one... so why did you put it on your list of things to get?

RSX99 wasn't questioning your motives, he was just trying to help. I would have to agree with him though because you are gonna end up with more money in upgrades than what you bought the gun for, and you'll end up with $300 in a $100 gun and at the end of the day, it's still a spyder. if you dont like the SLG buy a used mid-end speedball gun.

I would first get HPA before you buy anything

... Can people just rank them w/o suggesting that i get a new marker?

DFSniper
04-10-2009, 04:46 PM
we're trying to save you money. in the long run, its better to save the money and buy a new gun after 2-4 months and get a gun and use the mr1 as backup. and the more you add to a gun, the more prone to malfunction it is.

if you dont like the slg, pick up an 09 electra or used mini or timmy for under $200.

not to mention the mr1 is heavy as **** for a speedball gun...


I said new face mask... i already have one... duh
he meant save phace. theyre a cheap mask company that started making airbrushed masks and selling them for $70...

now your setup:

HPA Tank

E-Trigger

New Bolt (and what kind) ACP del-flow

Regulator (and what the hell they are because i have no idea [they might even be useless]) you wont need it with the mr1 unless you plan on doing some major internal modding

Block of Aluminum (so i can make a sweet looking mag) - pointless in speedball

Feedneck (probably CCM) - good luck finding one by ccm. best bet would be an adapter that uses ion threaded feednecks. or just buy a trinity one. but this is a must if you plan on putting on a heavy hopper

Hopper/Loader (perhaps even Q-Loader if i have the money) ditch the qloader. its a hassle to refill in speedball. get a used halo/empire b

New Mask - all personal preference

Different Trigger for the E-grip (Magnetic return?) - thats a home mod. and trigger shape is all preference too

New Velocity Adjuster - pointless. stock one is fine.

ProX
04-10-2009, 05:50 PM
I'll have to say that I very much agree with DFSniper, although on the bolt, I would use a stock one with the venturi removed and a polished striker. If going to the ACP bolt, then I'd use their striker too. Since you're going to HPA, save your money on the reg. HPA thanks already have one- just buy it with the high pressure output. With a spring kit, you'll be good to go.

So really, aside from the HPA tank and and your choice of masks, you really don't need anything IMO. I'm not really sure about your grip though... Is it already an e-grip, or are you wanting to get one?

The only other change I'd make to it if you haven't already, would be to buy a barrel for it. By now everybody pretty much knows I'm a fan of Lapco barrels, but other good ones are CP and Palmer's (PPS)- My personal favorite.

Since we're talking mods, if you really wanna get crazy with it, you can convert to low pressure. Then you'll want a reg. It will be easier on paint, innards, and probably a little more gas efficient.

EpixPB
04-10-2009, 06:11 PM
Thanks a TON guys.

Jonathan James - sorry for the confusion... thought you thought that i didn't have a mask... :)

ProX - I do not have an e-grip, i am looking into buying one and am also finding a good anti-chop bolt because my marker chops too much (over 2 a game) and i dont expect an e-grip to help much.

DFSniper - The 'Block Of Aluminum' is pointless in every aspect of paintball, let alone speedball. I am going to grind it down unto a UMP style replica magazine because it LOOKS GOOD (imo) and the aluminum is the best weight/price ratio that i could find (and it is really easy w/ a dremmel).

Thanks for the suggestions.

DFSniper
04-10-2009, 06:21 PM
the hopper will cut down on chopping a lot.

EpixPB
04-10-2009, 06:22 PM
the hopper will cut down on chopping a lot.

Yes, I was hoping that people would list them in order of which ones I should get first (1 to 10) so that i could start upgrading while i play.

Thanks

ProX - That is where i was going to get the CCM feedneck, but thanks anyways

ProX
04-10-2009, 06:24 PM
Forgot to mention you can pick up an adapter and feed neck from Sundragon.

http://www.sundragonpps.com/paintball_spyder_feednecks.html

A good fast loader will do wonders for it too.

EpixPB
04-10-2009, 06:28 PM
Would you rate the Item on the list that i created in first to buy (highest priority) to lowest priority please?
The hopper and CCM Sundragon feedneck are both on there, so.....

Thanks

ProX
04-10-2009, 06:39 PM
Parts List (please rank them in order of importance) :

HPA Tank 10 10

E-Trigger 6 8

New Bolt (and what kind) 2 7 (ACP or other

Regulator (and what the hell they are because i have no idea [they might even be useless]) 2 6

Block of Aluminum (so i can make a sweet looking mag) 1 2

Feedneck (probably CCM) 8 9

Hopper/Loader (perhaps even Q-Loader if i have the money) 7 9

New Mask 10 10

Different Trigger for the E-grip (Magnetic return?) 5 6

New Velocity Adjuster 2 5
______________________________

List of what I already have:

J+J ceramic edge barrel kit (16")
remote Line
Polished Internals
Stock MR-1
Co2 (don't flame me... its cheaper)



Thanks In Advance!

Numbers in red are the low buck rating and blue is the high buck option.

ProX
04-10-2009, 06:50 PM
If you are content to stay with CO2, then I'd highly suggest running a regulator. It regulates the tank output pressure to a stable level. CO2's pressure fluctuates both up and down with rate of fire and temperature. If the temp goes up, so does the pressure in the tank and consequently your velocity. It can also "spike" when liquid CO2 gets into your gun and expands causing a rapid pressure increase. With CO2 compatible reg, this will go away. The problem is that there are few CO2 friendly regs out there and the ones that are, are kinda pricey, making a very good argument for HPA.

What a regulator wont fix is a drop in tank pressure due to high rates of fire or low temps. With most Spyders requiring around 800psi to operate properly, a CO2 tank could loose enough pressure to cause cycling problems in a hurry. The only way to fix this is lower the operating pressure- think low pressure conversion. Bottom line - If HPA is available, it is a better option unless you really want to tinker.

EpixPB
04-10-2009, 06:51 PM
Thanks... What are high and low buck ratings?! *confused looking face*

Are they rated 1 - 10 ... 1 being highest or 10 being highest... I notice a lack of threes...

ProX
04-10-2009, 07:17 PM
My ratings based on how much money you are willing to throw around. If you are poor, go with the red ones. If you are feeling pretty rich, go with the other.

TheDarkShadow
04-11-2009, 07:10 PM
HPA Tank 3

E-Trigger 4

New Bolt 6

Regulator 5

Block of Aluminum 10

Feedneck (probably CCM) 1

Hopper/Loader 2

New Mask 7

Different Trigger for the E-grip (Magnetic return?) 8

New Velocity Adjuster 9

this would be my order