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pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 03:45 PM
ok, i want to know what the best possible paintball gun+ attachments for woodsball is. idc about price

Critical
04-09-2009, 04:42 PM
What style do you play? Do you hose paint or conserve it and only shoot when you have a shot? Are you playing close quarters, village, woods, outlaw? Do you have access to HPA or only CO2?

Kunithrayin
04-09-2009, 06:10 PM
Well the X7 is probably pretty far up there and it's really upgradeable. As far as the best upgrades go though it depends on your style.

pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 06:35 PM
i want to be able to hit things long rage with one shot, but put down a ****storm of paint when i want to

pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 06:35 PM
and it has to look good

TheDarkShadow
04-09-2009, 06:41 PM
IMO, I would get a TM7 with a reloader b or any other halo style loader (just my personal preference) Apex barrel and of course HPA

EDIT: if money wasnt an object, in place of the TM7, I'd get the Boblong M-tac

pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 06:42 PM
looks gay haha

TheDarkShadow
04-09-2009, 06:49 PM
which one looks gay?

pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 07:02 PM
tm7, x7 kicks ass

TheDarkShadow
04-09-2009, 07:05 PM
TM7 will perform better, eyes and electronic frame, X7 is just a fancy, more expensive A5

irishwarrior
04-09-2009, 07:27 PM
I just want to put it out there that short of the new Tiberius ammo (if it works), there is no way to have a paintball gun shoot sharpshooter-quality longballs. Without changing the velocity all paintball guns will shoot the same distance.

TheDarkShadow
04-09-2009, 07:31 PM
tippman flatline will shoot farther (IMO the only possible reason to get a tippman)

kramernator
04-09-2009, 07:33 PM
ya, i think the only thing that tippmann has going for them its that they look cool, otherwise they are pretty bare. BUT...if your going for the military look i think the x7 would be the way to go. tippmanns work good, but they stuck bigtime to clean, especially compared to spyder.

oh, darkshadow, i didn't think the tm7 had eyes, i looked at action village and on the bt website, neither said anything about eyes.

irishwarrior
04-09-2009, 07:35 PM
tippman flatline will shoot farther (IMO the only possible reason to get a tippman)

Ah, yes. I forgot about the flatline.

TheDarkShadow
04-09-2009, 07:43 PM
oh, darkshadow, i didn't think the tm7 had eyes, i looked at action village and on the bt website, neither said anything about eyes.

hmmm, I guess it doesn't. I guess I just assumed that it did because it is built like a mini

kramernator
04-09-2009, 08:25 PM
ya, about that... when it says "built like a mini" does that just mean that it has the reg in the handle, therefore no hose??

bigred76
04-09-2009, 08:26 PM
I'm not going to say the N word, but you all know I'm thinkin' it.

Four words: Pnuem-Mag'd Tac-One. BT's crap for quality, Tippmann's are inefficient as all hell, but a Mag goes through hell and still comes up shooting. Pnuem-Mag mod or ULT it, and it's better than any of the markers you fellas have listed here.


EDIT: Kramer, it means that it's just as crappy as a Mini.

slim and shady
04-09-2009, 08:34 PM
personaly I would go for a milsig or the t68 gen 6, look good good quality and if you want farther shots throw a apex tip on the barrel tippys suck. honestly I dont see the hype in the x7 its a plastic a-5. same **** in a new package.

bigred76
04-09-2009, 08:35 PM
Shady, you just dropped a peg in The Book. :(

pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 08:36 PM
im gna build one, ill post a pic of the sketchup one i just spent three hours making lol

slim and shady
04-09-2009, 08:39 PM
Shady, you just dropped a peg in The Book. :(

why is that?

pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 08:41 PM
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/pntballer5634/IMG.jpg
there you go, didnt come out as good in scanner, but yeah. thats a grenade launcher on bottom, dot sight on top, and a fsliding stock, its mag fed, and the square thing is the mag release

kramernator
04-09-2009, 08:43 PM
this things gonna be a boat

slim and shady
04-09-2009, 08:44 PM
something like mine :D

pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 08:45 PM
its gna kick ass haha

slim and shady
04-09-2009, 08:47 PM
if your going for mag feed you have little options, of are you just looking at a marker with a cosmetic mag?

kramernator
04-09-2009, 08:50 PM
yeah, how are you gonna fashion your air supply and hopper

pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 08:52 PM
well, ill cnc the whole thing. and build mags that hold enough gas to power themselves ( 20-30 shots) i'd like to make bullet shaped paintballs that fly farther and straighter and use a rifled barrel. so yeah

TheDarkShadow
04-09-2009, 08:56 PM
well, ill cnc the whole thing. and build mags that hold enough gas to power themselves ( 20-30 shots) i'd like to make bullet shaped paintballs that fly farther and straighter and use a rifled barrel. so yeah

Tiberius beat you to the paintballs

kramernator
04-09-2009, 08:56 PM
gotcher bulletballs (http://www.spyder.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=19471)

so ur saying that you will have the paint and air in the mag..like tiberius?? that would be sweet. are you gonna use those 12 grams air tanks??

pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 08:57 PM
yea, well those are balls with fins, like a birdy in badmitton. im talkin about a bullet shape. <======

kramernator
04-09-2009, 08:59 PM
ic, ill be interested to see how you manage that :D
well it sounds like you got some big ideas here...good luck, hope this turns out good!! :)

pntballer5634
04-09-2009, 09:02 PM
well, its deffinately not goin to be easy haha

TheDarkShadow
04-10-2009, 01:28 PM
not to be an ass or put you down but... you're going to try to invent and have maufactured your own paintballs? I hope you have a lot of time and even more money.

Critical
04-10-2009, 01:37 PM
With the exception of the "grenade launcher" the marker you describe is virtually identical to an ATS.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8231/img0052ql7.jpg

Why try to re-invent the wheel?

TheDarkShadow
04-10-2009, 02:02 PM
if you want a clip feed, go to RAP4

pntballer5634
04-10-2009, 02:03 PM
im not, im just making a super wheel on roids haha. and the paintballs will be for me. you can buy mixes for paint and shells, i just have to make molds. and no co2 canister, the mags will have a built in air resivour with the right ammount of air.

pntballer5634
04-10-2009, 02:06 PM
and i saw that gun once and i was wondering what it was, its bad ass, but mine will me super uber bad ass

TheDarkShadow
04-11-2009, 06:26 PM
and no co2 canister, the mags will have a built in air resivour with the right ammount of air.

good luck having some one fill that. chances are that if you do get it filled, it blow up, killing/injuring you or someone else

kramernator
04-11-2009, 06:39 PM
yeah, but if he can find somebody who know what they are doing...then its a possibility

slim and shady
04-11-2009, 06:48 PM
no one is going to fill it period. every tank has to be rehydroed ect. you cant just take a custom product that hasnt bein tested to industry standerds and get it filled. it just wont happen. your better off to get it to run off 12grams.

pntballer5634
04-11-2009, 06:53 PM
true, i think the twelve gram would be the best way to go. but a higher ammo capacity. i don't understand how a tiberius mag holds 8 balls, and the t68 holds 12, it should hold at least 20

pntballer5634
04-11-2009, 06:58 PM
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/pntballer5634/gunfront.jpg
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/pntballer5634/gun.jpg
did some more work on sketchup, this should give u a better idea, and yes, that is the SCAR H stoock and grip

pntballer5634
04-11-2009, 07:00 PM
i'd love to hear what red thinks of it

Kunithrayin
04-11-2009, 07:02 PM
Dude just go buy a Tiberius.

TheDarkShadow
04-11-2009, 07:03 PM
he doesn't like lasers soo you probably dont want to know

pntballer5634
04-11-2009, 07:07 PM
no, and the laser is just to look cool. i think i remember seeing a post where he was talking about pointing lasers at people and the dangers, plus you can't even see it well.

Critical
04-11-2009, 07:12 PM
1. Lasers are not allowed
2. machining that out of aluminum is going to be next to impossible, insanely expensive, or both.
3. No firing mechanism for the grenade launcher
4. You need to incorporate a way to put a barrel sock on the launcher, or again, no field will let you play
5. I hope you work out, that is going to be incredibly heavy
6. What mechanism are you planning on sing to get the paintballs up out of the magazine?
7. How is it going to break down for cleaning/maintenance?
8. how are you going to run your air passages? With that setup, I can only think that you'll run remote?

pntballer5634
04-11-2009, 07:21 PM
wow, its just a concept, i didnt say this was the final produce. chil man. and 12 gram air in mag, it would take me hours to draw in little screws, if rap4 has a launcher, so can i, and it'd probably be a modded phantom launcher, spring for the mag, and heres a redraw that's shorter, and has a light instead of laser: http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/pntballer5634/gunv2.jpg

pntballer5634
04-11-2009, 07:33 PM
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/pntballer5634/GUNCARBINESHOOTING.jpg
here it is in action, and anyone who has a problem with it can be on the buisness end of it hahaha

pntballer5634
04-11-2009, 07:45 PM
but based off the ideas i have, and the pictures, what do you think, rate it please

pntballer5634
04-11-2009, 07:48 PM
reds on, ill see if i can get his attention, im gonna make a gun with lots of super strong lasers that can burn your eyes out, and im going to make it with TIPPMANN parts. also, im going to play like a dumb noob

pntballer5634
04-11-2009, 08:18 PM
he'll like this
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/pntballer5634/guntopissredoff.jpg

slim and shady
04-11-2009, 10:03 PM
I think you have far to much time on your hands ;)

TheDarkShadow
04-12-2009, 06:07 AM
I think you have far to much time on your hands ;)

agreed

irishwarrior
04-12-2009, 06:24 AM
Just remember that you asked for my opinion, so don't get grouchy with me for giving it to you. I think that it is a cool, if thoroughly impractical concept. I agree with all the points that Critical made and would like to add my own. How are you going to create this? Do you have machining tools at home? Do you have a local machinist who will do it for you? How would you adjust velocity? How would you make the mags? What about the firing system? How would you be able to use the fire select? How would you run the air system into the firing chamber? If I may make a suggestion, I would say that it would be easier to use pre-existing parts (trigger frame, barrel, mag, stock, maybe even gun) and build it using those.

i don't understand how a tiberius mag holds 8 balls, and the t68 holds 12, it should hold at least 20

Because a twenty round mag would be bulky, here's a 17 round tiberius mag and its huge. (http://shop.specialopspaintball.com/special-ops-tiberius-8-9-ext-mag-17-rd-kit.html)

kramernator
04-12-2009, 07:27 AM
Dude just go buy a Tiberius.
bingo

otherwise like irish said, try and use an existing gun body and trigger frame, then build off of that.

Solitare2point1
04-12-2009, 08:48 AM
Ah to be a teenager and to dream again. I remember when I thought I could make my civic ex run 12's, that was a good dream.

If someone has thought of it, it's probably already been done. And if it's not standard, it probably sucks. You obviously don't know about production, or manufacturing. I can draw a mech-warrior suit and say I wanna make it out of toothpicks and rubber bands, doesn't mean it's feasible.

slim and shady
04-12-2009, 09:16 AM
I dont think the Idea itself is bad just the way your looking at it. All the things you want to do are already made. If you want a mag feed then get one for the main body of the gun. If you wast a launcher get one (EGL47, scepter ect.) Put it on, take some messurments contact the UMS and send them a to scale pic of what shroud you want to encompase it all, that holds to the marker with pre existing screws. But your design as it stands now has seriouse flaws. Grenade launchers are breach loading, how are you going to load a grenade in a shroud like that? how are you going to fire it if you cover the dump valve or trigger? you could easily have the marker run off 12 grams most mag feed markers are designed that way. I think you have an idea but now you have to stop dreaming and think practicaly. I can also tell you from first hand experiance that the marker is going to weigh alot, thus you wont use it as much as you would think. Another problem is any launcher will use a full 12 gram every shot, you will have to have a seperate air supply for that or it will be even less practical then it is already. Come back down to earth now and start to plan what portions of your design are actually realistic and what your going to have to change. A drawing or sketch is one thing making that drawing or skech functinal is another story compleatly.

Solitare2point1
04-12-2009, 11:15 AM
The point is he is 14, underfunded, and the gun itself has no production value.

That's like saying; "Hey Kingman group, you know the millions of dollars with of RnD you used to make your production line? Yea, I can do that on a 14 year olds income."

Not feasible.

irishwarrior
04-12-2009, 12:15 PM
Guys, I think it would be more productive to give him other options rather than just shoot down his idea.

kramernator
04-12-2009, 01:21 PM
well yeah, like shady said, don't start from stratch...these things are already out there, you just need to find them and do a little (or in this case, a lot) or modding

Solitare2point1
04-12-2009, 03:02 PM
I'm not putting shooting down the idea, but he obviously hasn't done any research otherwise he would see that most of this stuff is already out there, and a lot of it isn't worth the $.

slim and shady
04-12-2009, 05:51 PM
Guys, I think it would be more productive to give him other options rather than just shoot down his idea.

well Irish I wasnt shooting down his idea, like you I give him my honest opinion. I think his idea could work he just has to look at it from a different angle. I told him what I think his next corse of action should be. I didnt shoot down his idea at all. there is alot more to doing a gun project like that then a little sketch on the computer. I think this first and formost has to be realised. to make the idea work he is going to have to rethink it on a practical level.

irishwarrior
04-12-2009, 06:11 PM
I was referring more to Solitaire when I said that Slim. I realize that you are giving constructive criticism and that you are trying to help. I thought that another user had posted before you, but that was just Solitaire again. Sorry about any confusion.

pntballer5634
04-12-2009, 07:18 PM
o i know, its just a concept for something that would be cool to do one day

slim and shady
04-13-2009, 02:25 PM
you could do it but it would take an unreal amount of cash and you would have to look at your designe more realistacly.

pntballer5634
05-09-2009, 05:01 PM
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/pntballer5634/snipersightview.jpg
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/pntballer5634/nipermodside.jpg
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/pntballer5634/sniperfront.jpg
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/pntballer5634/snipergripview.jpg

did some more work, increase magazine size to be more realistic. i'd probably make this as a shroud for the t68, do some modding to get an X& e grip frame to fit it because it's modled afta the SCAR, and this gun has a SCAR grip and stock. i'd mod the scenario arms scar stock to fit, mod the t68's mags to be like the SCAR H 7.62 mags cause they're bigger, but make them longer than the scar mags, then I'd have to mod the magwell, i'd probable run a remote or see if i could fit a tank inside the shroud, or maybe do some sort of dual-tank system, so i could hold more air in the shroud, i'd prob go remote tho because it would be heavy enough as is. i'd buy a bipod, install a laser and tac light with switches on the grip, get it painted, and there you go. the fully explained version. BTW, i could export the sketchup modle to CAD, and have a company use a CNC, or some other method, to make the shroud out of a light metal, aluminum frame with carbon fiber? and i found companies that will do this. it may be costly, but it would be mad sweet. obvioulsy, i don't plan to do this in the near future. but it is quit possible, and i could make a few and get a little profit.

XSiv Force
05-09-2009, 05:13 PM
looks similar to bob longs new m-tac marker

pntballer5634
05-09-2009, 05:14 PM
yea, but mag fed, original, and with a touch of chris