View Full Version : [Help] My Eyes Won't Work

01-29-2009, 03:17 PM
Hello Guests And Users Of The Spyder Forum

My Problem Started The Day I Got My Spyder Vs2 And I Have Been Wanting It To Be Fixed Ever Since


Problem:Eyes Broken

More On Problem

Everything Is Together Properly But When I Turn The circuit Board and turn the eyes on and pull the trigger it won't fire but when i turn the eyes off it will fire.

When The eyes are on with a ball in the breach and bolt cocked = Will Not Fire
When The eyes are on without ball in the breach and bolt uncocked = will not fire

These are some photos of my circuit board and eyes don't think anythings wrong but in the last photo there is a shiny patch that is a little metal bit sticking out the side of the eye


http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3710/dscf2385customrg4.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf2385customrg4.jpg)

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7039/dscf2386customst2.th.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf2386customst2.jpg)

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9192/dscf2387customkb7.th.jpg (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf2387customkb7.jpg)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3559/untitled1customhx1.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled1customhx1.jpg)

01-29-2009, 04:44 PM

someone had a familiar problem before... will it fire with the eyes off? unplug the battery then plug it back in. clean the eyes nuthing should be in the ways of the eyes. check if any wires are pinched in the trigger frame.

01-29-2009, 04:52 PM
done it many times but i will try it again because it may do a diagnostics test when the battery is pluged in so i will put nothing in the way of the eyes

Ill post when it works or not thanks

01-29-2009, 04:55 PM

01-29-2009, 04:57 PM
Nope It Don't work Please help

i could take photos of the eyes if you might see a problem then

I live in New Zealand so there aren't any spare parts i would have to order them

01-29-2009, 05:32 PM
New Zealand? wow!!! umm geez try calling kingman cuz another guy has the samiliar problem and he called kingman. it was board malfuction and they hooked him up!

Take pictures so that the rest of the members and I can take a look at it... maybe they have a solution for u today or tommrow.


01-29-2009, 06:59 PM
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01-29-2009, 07:12 PM
i really can see much of the last pic cuz it's not focused... everything else looks good...how bout ur other wires? do they look good?

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01-30-2009, 12:46 AM
New Zealand, eh? Sweet! :)

Let's see what I can contribute to this... hrm... other than what MHL said, it might just be a bad eye. The metal should not be protruding from the plastic encasement nor from the rear where the eye is soldered to the wires.

Take them both out of the marker (as you have), and hook everything up outside the marker. Turn off the light to the room, take out your camera, and look at both eyes. One of them SHOULD be emitting a purplish, blueish light that is invisible to the naked eye. The photoreceiver on a camera like yours (point and shoot, I'm guessing) should have no problem seeing it if it's there.

If you see a signal being sent out, then try to lay the eyes right next to each other, pointing directly at each other. See if the eyes detect nothing is in the breech. Then try to see if it will let you activate the solenoid on the first pull with something inbetween them or with them pointing completely opposite from each other (the marker will assume an eye error is occurring based on it's programming if it constantly sees that the eyes are blocked).

Random knowledge time: Try taking a picture from a bit farther back, it'll help the camera to focus. Most cameras have a denotation around the lens of the minimum focus distance, try to stay at least that far away from the subject you're trying to focus on, even if it means that you don't get as close up as you want. You can always crop the picture and zoom in on it later. Also looks like your shadow got in the way of the lighting and the ISO on the camera kicked up to the max, causing it to have that pixelation/grain.

EDIT: Also, the link in your signature does not work. :)

01-30-2009, 12:52 AM
Yes I Know The Link in my signature doesn't work its not running yet should be running by next week

thanks for trying the link thoe

i will try your idea

Edit: nope the light from the eye when its dark and through a camera did not show

i hope this can be fixed because i don't want to spend more money on JUST EYES

01-30-2009, 01:46 AM
Ok, I'm going to give it to ya straight: how long ago was the marker purchased? Within about the last year or so? You might be able to get some eyes via the warranty... Emailing Kingman would be your best bet if you do not wish to call them. Eyes are amazingly pricey for what parts are involved, so I wouldn't be surprised if they'd charge you $20-45 if it's out of warranty for the parts. Shipping's another story altogether, especially since you're in New Zealand. Kingman is normally pretty good about their warranty, especially since this looks to be a manufacturing fault. No biggie, just something QC missed.

I will inquire with a few friends about online stores in your neck of the woods and see what kinda prices they're running, as the cost for shipping would be far less than having to ship over "the pond" if the marker is out of warranty.

01-30-2009, 01:57 AM
well i brought the marker 2nd hand so i dont know how old it is

but maybe kingman will send me some new eyes since it was a manufacturing falt

01-30-2009, 02:02 AM
If it was a manufacturing fault, they will most likely ask you to send in the faulty eyes to confirm it, unfortunately. A second-hand ownership voids the warranty as it's only for the original purchaser, but you never know... You could get lucky and they might let you slip in. :crazy:

EDIT: http://www.paintballshop.co.nz/Catalog.tms/Show/PRT-SP-WRH001 There ya go, seems like a decent enough price to me at $12 USD.

01-30-2009, 01:38 PM
http://www.paintballshop.co.nz/Catalog.tms/Show/PRT-SP-WRH001 There ya go, seems like a decent enough price to me at $12 USD.

wow thank you for finding thoes for me they must have just put them up for sale because thats the site i buy most my stuff from


01-31-2009, 09:30 PM
Well I Found Out The Problem With My Eyes

i need a new infared led

i was wondering if this would fit

infared LED (http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/4985326a009748ac2740c0a87f3b06e0/Product/View/Z3235)


01-31-2009, 11:38 PM
cool...happy we can help u anything else u need?

02-01-2009, 12:27 AM
Hrm, that might just work.

02-01-2009, 12:49 AM
Ill Goto D1ckSmith sometime Next Week so ill post back if it works

02-01-2009, 01:03 AM
Well I Found Out The Problem With My Eyes

i need a new infared led

i was wondering if this would fit

infared LED (http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/4985326a009748ac2740c0a87f3b06e0/Product/View/Z3235)


So is that an emitter or receiver side you need? -

02-01-2009, 01:07 AM
your confusing me now

what is what on the stock eyes

is the dark one the Emitter or receiver

please post fast im going to d1cksmith tomoro mornning

its 10 10 PM here

02-01-2009, 01:17 AM
Not meant to confuse but enlighten. ;) The dark side is the receiver, the clear side the emitter. I have no idea of technical data as replacements. You're prolly better off just getting the harness from that place **shrugs** -

02-01-2009, 01:21 AM
I Think I Will Get The Harness From That Place

i think i know what is wrong with my eyes thoe

the receiving one has one of the legs half out the side of the plastic

so its picking up any type of light

but then i tried under blankets where theres no light

then i though because the legs out it might pick up heat as light???

any queries

02-01-2009, 01:34 AM
........the receiving one has one of the legs half out the side of the plastic.......

Think I mentioned that before. It just sounds borkted and needs to be replaced - ;)

02-01-2009, 03:20 AM
LED = Light Emitting Diode. ;)

I'd get the new set as well, as it's simply easier in the end. They're so cheap, too.