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calebh
11-02-2008, 06:48 PM
so, in response to the dissatisfaction of many with the major party candidates, and in the interests of having everyone fully educated before the vote, without further ado, i give you the full list of candidates (http://www.votesmart.org/election_president.php). just find your state, and look at the list.

you really do have a choice. don't let that cute little "you can vote however you like" video make you think voting how you like means voting for one of the two major parties. actually vote how you actually like.

the major 6 candidates: (if you don't like any of these, look up the others in your state. given the sheer number of candidates, you'll find someone you can actually support.)

first, mccain and obama. if you haven't gotten enough information on these two, you can vote wednesday.

Chuck Baldwin (http://www.baldwin08.com/), Constitution, the largest 3rd party by registration
Bob Barr (http://www.bobbarr2008.com/home/skip/?s=0618), Libertarian
Cynthia McKinney (http://www.mckinney2008.com/PRESIDENT/), Green
Ralph Nader (http://www.votenader.org/index.html), Independent

videos:
Ralph Nader v Chuck Baldwin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmZpSCMBy4k

Cynthia McKinney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03cOM9r51Nw

Bob Barr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtw4VL3aIrI

vikingshadow
11-03-2008, 04:46 AM
Thank you! I'll watch these after school today. I need to know MORE about EVERYONE because this is just getting to be a big poo storm...

durrell
11-03-2008, 06:28 AM
Might as well not vote at all if you vote for any of those people.

Sorry, but you can't argue with the truth. You can vote for them just to be different, whatever. I guess it would give you the right to complain over the next 4 years when you say "I voted for Nader."

Drefish99
11-03-2008, 07:28 AM
Thanks. It will give me a few more options on my run of bumper stickers "Don't blame me, I voted for (insert other candidate name here other than Obama)" :)

colonel_moo
11-03-2008, 01:00 PM
Might as well not vote at all if you vote for any of those people.

Sorry, but you can't argue with the truth. You can vote for them just to be different, whatever. I guess it would give you the right to complain over the next 4 years when you say "I voted for Nader."

And because everyone else also has this mentality, it will never change.

Critical
11-03-2008, 01:08 PM
Not to get too political, as I have (mostly) sworn off. However, the reason why these third parties are unsuccessful is because they are going about it entirely the wrong way. Think about it this way. When you graduate school, is your first job CEO? No, I didn't think so. The 3rd parties need to start by getting members elected to local county councils and school boards. Mayors of small towns and sheriffs, that sort of thing.

Then, as they get their message out, they move up to county commissioner, state legislature, and maybe some of the lower level elected state offices.

Only then should they even think about national offices, and they should start with the House of Representatives and slowly move into the Senate.

Yes it takes time, no it's not glamourous, no, there's no instant payoff and your name in the news, but if these parties seriously expect to influence people, instead of being remembered as a wack-job also-ran, they need to do a better job of it.

STRIKEFIRST
11-03-2008, 02:02 PM
My wife told me voting "Third Party" was like Obama voting "Present"

calebh
11-03-2008, 04:20 PM
it would be more akin to obama voting no, then voting for a better alternative. (i don't know how many times that happened...)

DFSniper
11-04-2008, 06:15 PM
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/presidential-race/233562

projections, in case anyones curious.