View Full Version : Spyder and Piranha pump. 56k warning

08-02-2008, 11:20 PM
First the the piranha. I used to work at a paintball field for 9 years. On the fields 20th anniversary, one of the customers whom I had known for a few years presented me with this. It was an old rental piranha turned pump. I was playing at that time with a phantom or an AM Illusion Pro (wish I never sold that one). This guy does machine work on the side. He machined the sides of the phantom to give it a slightly slimmer profile, machined the custom barrel from the stock one, and came up with the entire way of making the pump work. This was back in April of 06'.

Next is the spyder. Still loving pump play, I knew I wanted a spyder, because of how light and simple they are. And reliable. I had my same machinist friend do the work. Started with an old victor body (previous rental gun). I came up with all the original ideas on how I wanted it to look, I left it up to my friend to make it work. After bouncing ideas off each other, the end result is what we came up with. Again, the body was cleaned up to look less spyder'ish. The original bolt was tossed, and a custom one was machined which is half delrin. Pump handle was machined out of one big piece of delrin. The trigger frame was from an old original tl. I can't stand double triggers, so tracking down a .45 frame that wasn't plastic was tough. I believe I bought the entire tl from someone here.

I can provide more pics if needed. I would like to work on making that piranha sc, but time and interest are the biggest problems for me. Working at a paintball field killed my drive to play. But, with more and more people talking about making spyder pumps, I thought I would add mine. Had the piranha since 06', and the spyder since late 07'. I enjoy the piranha for its uniqueness, and the spyder is cool because my friend really improved his machining skills for that one.


08-03-2008, 04:55 AM

I believe I've seen these before....are you flatacid from pbnation, perhaps?

I always loved the second one. I "borrowed" a picture of it to put in my Spyder Pump tutorial actually (I hope you don't mind!)

08-03-2008, 08:01 AM
cool pumps

XSiv Force
08-03-2008, 08:34 AM
im currently turning my piranha that looks just like in to a pump but i was going to mill a slot in the sides and connect the bolt similar to how a phantoms is. Is the way you did it Pump Torunament Legal? Well guess what im asking is have you ever played in a pump tournament with it?

08-03-2008, 09:39 AM
There's no reason why it wouldn't be legal. If it's open class then it'll be fine. However, if it's stock class, you'll have to get a different feed tube and use a 12 gram changer.

08-03-2008, 10:24 AM

I believe I've seen these before....are you flatacid from pbnation, perhaps?

I always loved the second one. I "borrowed" a picture of it to put in my Spyder Pump tutorial actually (I hope you don't mind!)
I am flatacid from pbn. I usually hang out over there just for the pump section.
I don't mind about the pic either. I have a few more of the piranha internal makings if you wanted more pics of slotted strikers. Both the spyder and piranha have the striker slotted by mills, and the valve pins are machined from scratch as well.

XSivForce - I have not played any pump tournys with either. I play just to have fun. Like viking said, the piranha is cool for open class play. It also doesn't have the thumb adjuster for the velocity, so changing velocity on the field isn't a problem.


XSiv Force
08-03-2008, 10:42 AM
Alright i think im going to go your way now and just mill the striker :D

08-03-2008, 10:52 AM
Well, thanks! I appreciate you being ok with me using the pictures. I did give you credit, by the way.

How do you get the milled valve pins? I searched all over for one, and just didn't have any luck. I also looked for T1 pin and a trilogy valve pin - I just don't want to buy a whole new valve just for the pin.

Anyways, nice to have you over here in our little forum!

08-03-2008, 11:09 AM
How do you get the milled valve pins?
My machinist friend took alum stock and machined it from scratch. Just a piece of alum turned on a lathe.

Valve assembly from the piranha

Striker from the piranha


XSiv Force
08-03-2008, 11:17 AM
any chance you can take a pic of the rear cocking arm where it meets the rear of the gun

08-03-2008, 11:32 AM
If you don't mind, just a couple more questions...Do the valve pins take a standard cup seal? And would he be interested in making another one?

I've been trying really hard to find one, haha!

08-03-2008, 01:26 PM

looks like the old spyder body with the milling on the side!

haha, vike, i was about to say, if the machinist could cook up a batch or two, i'm sure theres people around here that would buy em!

both awesome guns. i've seen those 8 ball handles before, but i cant remember where...

08-03-2008, 01:33 PM
They got used on Phantoms quite a bit a couple years ago.

Yeah, I'm sure there's a small market for those after market valve pins - I know I'd get one!

08-03-2008, 01:50 PM
any chance you can take a pic of the rear cocking arm where it meets the rear of the gun

Here ya go. Originally, the pump rod was going to bend into the the bolt, but problems came about when bending it the rod and having the rod keep it's integrity. A small block was machined that connected the back of the bolt to the pump rod. A hole was drilled and tapped in the back of the bolt to accept a allen head screw.

DFSniper - I am a fan of the older carter guns, so I had him do some of the same ball milling on the spyder, as well as the sight on the piranha

Viking. Yes, they take standard cup seals. I just emailed him about some stuff, and will ask him about the valve stems.

08-03-2008, 04:16 PM
Cool! Man, first posts on the forum and you've already made an impact. Awesome!

XSiv Force
08-03-2008, 04:20 PM
id take one