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QRFleader
02-26-2006, 04:38 PM
IM looking to get more range out of my spyder, Its an MR1 with a 14" JandJ and a 32 degrees spring kit.

Is there another barrel I can run to get more range?

Spinal
02-26-2006, 04:50 PM
14'' is best for range, just aim the gun up.

ooglieboogliebob
02-26-2006, 06:32 PM
actually ... barrel size doesn't really determine the range .. it's more of paint to bore match ... umm .. QRFleader .. you should be fine the way you are .. just look at paint size faq (http://www.ottersccustoms.com/paintc.html) and barrel size faq (http://www.ottersccustoms.com/barrelc.html)

fishsticks
02-26-2006, 09:11 PM
Apex will give you some extra distance with the flatline effect.

Recon by Fire
02-26-2006, 09:27 PM
Yeah, at the cost of absolutely no accuracey :(

Nothing will increase your distance properly aside from increasing your FPS velocity.

timbertiger20
02-26-2006, 10:09 PM
Now a question for you Recon......did you max the affect completely out or??? I have heard from several people to turn it to half of maximum effect. Also I've heard using the barrels with backspin will always lose a little bit of accuracy!

QRFleader
02-28-2006, 07:08 AM
u say barrel has nothing to do with distance. A paint marker is still a gun, langer barrel = longer range, Other things contribute as well. when I went to the 14"jandj from the stock my range was equil to my buddies angel. I still want more range!!!! I may try the 18" jandj .

QAZ123
02-28-2006, 07:16 AM
No you wont' get anymore range from a longer barrel. I marker shooting the same fps with a shorter barrel will go the same distance. My 11" barrel on my phantom will shoot the same distance as your 14" barrel if they are shooting the same fps!

JB.

shunut
02-28-2006, 07:17 AM
Actually if you increase your barrel length you might lose distance. Paintball markers and paintballs are not the same as a gun and bullet. Longer barrel means more contact with the ball, which means less velocity as it comes out of the barrel, so less distance. You also have to take in account that paintball barrels are ported, gun barrels aren't. So when the propellant that pushes the projectile in paintball guns (which is air) is allowed to escape, where as in a gun it does not. I hope that helps explain it and not confuse you more.

bigred76
02-28-2006, 09:37 AM
If you want more distance, get closer. Best way I have found. ;)

timbertiger20
02-28-2006, 11:10 AM
Guns use a explosion to create a charge with powders that are designed to burn at certain rates. The explosion may produce 80,000 psi of pressure that is designed to accelerate the ball all the way down the barrel. A paintball marker on the other hand delivers 80-120 psi at the back of the ball.....even if you use 800 PSI and no regulator. The ball is accelerated the first couple of inches. I shot a ball with nothing but a 1 inch stiffi sizer and got 200+fps the other day. Listen to the people who have been around here awhile......barrels over 14" often cause a loss in acceleration causing you to have to raise your air flow to compensate. It will also cause you to use alot more air to keep the paint up to speed!

QRFleader
02-28-2006, 10:44 PM
Thanks guys, I understand how it works, I can get more range out of a longer barrel at the cost of air, We tried some experamenting yesterday. I had to turn my marker up to compensate for the loss out of the longer barrel.

timbertiger20
02-28-2006, 11:31 PM
You still actually won't get more range. If it leaves the tip of the barrel at 300 fps without a special spin, the ball will always act identically because that is a law of physics! The spin will buy you a little more, but with a loss in accuracy.

QAZ123
03-01-2006, 03:24 AM
Hopefully your not turning it up past 300 fps also.

JB.

QRFleader
03-01-2006, 09:18 AM
lol, no Im not I usualy shoot6 around 275 to 280, I have shot it at 350, but that was just for fun, I would never shoot anyone with it that hi, unless I didnt like them

ooglieboogliebob
03-01-2006, 02:15 PM
I would never shoot anyone with it that hi, unless I didnt like them

HAHAHA ... thats great :) ... well you'd probably get caught by the ref though ... never know though

QRFleader
03-01-2006, 04:44 PM
when I put my spring kit in it shot 355, I dont play over 300

ooglieboogliebob
03-01-2006, 06:22 PM
sweetspot your reg ... turn the velocity half in and then turn the psi down until it can't recock from the set your pressure to the way you please :)