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SpyderMan723
03-11-2008, 03:29 PM
Hey all I have a trilogy sport and i'm looking to throw some more upgrades into it.

but im not sure about what i can get for it.

I was looking at a 3-way and an LPR.

will they work?

Kenny_McCormic
03-11-2008, 06:17 PM
You cant up the 3 way without custom work (you would need to make a custom mounting block and screw it down with the holes the hose barbs from the factory built in 3 way used you would laos need a custom actuator rod). Palmer is the only company I know of that produces trilogy LPRs.

colonel_moo
03-11-2008, 07:44 PM
the problem with trilogies is you really can't upgrade them much. the 3 way is not upgradable, and without upgrading that, it doesnt make much sense to even bother upgrading the ram or LPR. I'm not sure if the other internals are consistent with other cockers, but if they are, i'd say get a new valve and spring kit, then you can lighten up your trigger pull.

leed
03-12-2008, 12:43 AM
Well, the 3 way body may not be upgradeable.. But you can upgrade the timing rod. To something that is.. Well.. Time..Able..

TechT (pronounced TechED, not Tech-Tee - someone pointed out to me that this was a huge deal to the company) has something called the "Shaft Kit." Despite it's connotations, replaces the stock trilogy timing rod.
http://www.techtpaintball.com/shaftkit.jpg (http://www.techtpaintball.com/shaftkit.html)

That is one place to start.

For a new LPR, you can go with TechT again. They have an adapter that turns down the regular Trilogy LPR size to the regular 1/8th NPT size. This is what standard Autococker LPR's use.
http://www.techtpaintball.com/nutad.jpg (http://www.techtpaintball.com/lpnut.html)

Am I a TechT Representative, no. I just know that they are one of the only companies that makes anything for the Trilogy.

And I am a bit surprised to see that you are running a Bob Long Torpedo, as to my knowledge, Trilogy Sports are designed to run straight off of 800PSI of CO2. So the valve is very restricting. If you can get a new valve (doubtful, not sure if they're made - Trilogy valves are vastly different than standard Autococker valves) then that would certainly be an upgrade.

bigred76
03-12-2008, 08:36 AM
You're right, Leed. They do have a different valve body dimension, and according to this link to Moody paintball (http://www.moodypaintball.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_8&products_id=205&zenid=4e349606cdb9b7f472034ca246210187), they made an Mq valve to fit it's body which is 11/16", the same size as a Merlin valve. As for a feedneck, you're SOL. Trinity stopped making their kits to convert the feed to a clamping on Trilogies and Pre-05 Prostocks.

There's actually quite a few things that you can do with Trilogies, here's something someone did with his:
http://tinyurl.com/2oweb4

I'm not done yet, though. This thread on 'Cocker Owners (http://customcockers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=23370) has all of the upgrades listed for the Trilogy. After you get the two parts Leed suggested from TechT (I've always pronounced it Tech-Tee... I'll have to remember that!), a lot of options are available to you as far as upgrades. There's no sense getting a new bolt and back-block before a new LPR, as they would be worthless. The order I'd do it in would be a new ASA (stock ones SUCK), the TechT parts, HPR (vertical regulator), LPR (something with a front adjuster, my Sledgehammer worked great on my old 'Cocker), bolt, ram, and then trigger frame. Really, the stock back blocks have always been fine for me, I've never seen a real point in upgrading them.

Leed: I am with you on the valve, HOWEVER, they used a preset (basically... I know it's adjustable, but it's a PITA to do, and most won't bother, so don't call me on it) regulator instead of a foregrip on all models except the Sport, if my memory serves me right. It brings the pressure down to the right level for any right-minded 'Cocker owner (I think it was 350psi).

leed
03-12-2008, 09:44 AM
Leed: I am with you on the valve, HOWEVER, they used a preset (basically... I know it's adjustable, but it's a PITA to do, and most won't bother, so don't call me on it) regulator instead of a foregrip on all models except the Sport, if my memory serves me right. It brings the pressure down to the right level for any right-minded 'Cocker owner (I think it was 350psi).

I know.. But the Trilogy Sport's valve is a high pressure valve..? So using an inline regulator without changing the valve would only hinder it's optimal performance?

SpyderMan723
03-12-2008, 03:19 PM
Alright, i got my torp and stickies today but now i need a new hose.

I'm seriously thinking about macro instead of SS only bcuz im too lazy to measure..

but i tried to gas it up with the SS and i had a leak coming out of the hole in the reg.

But i can't screw it on any tighter..

ideas? would macro be better?

SpyderMan723
03-12-2008, 05:53 PM
disregard the last post..

if i pick up the Low Pressure nut, will i have to buy new hose because the nut pushes the big black thing(sorry don't know my cocker lingo quite yet) forward?

bigred76
03-12-2008, 10:40 PM
The "big black thing".... Do you mean the LPR? The thing that all the air comes out to the front parts, with the air line running out of it to the middle of the three hoses on the 3-way? You should have extra hosing on hand anyways, get some from HobbyHorse (www.macrolineguy.com).