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spray and pray
03-08-2008, 03:36 PM
I have $400 and I was looking at buying a new gun. What do you reccomend? I want to have really good efficiency.

battlechaser
03-08-2008, 03:45 PM
Timmy... I myself hope to be in the market for an 06 Infamous come September... either that or I'm going to build a spimmy.

bigred76
03-08-2008, 03:49 PM
Save up another $50 and you could have an '06 Borg. Wicked fast, unbelievable efficiency (2000 shots per 68/45!), and extremely light.

pbfreak3221
03-08-2008, 04:17 PM
I think UL'ed PMR, you can get one for around 300.

xsvly-fat
03-08-2008, 04:21 PM
if your looking for something with good efficiency i would say a timmy or a borg

The Pumper
03-08-2008, 04:21 PM
Why not a brand spankin new talon? :dodgy:
But seriously..try an 05/06 ego.

spray and pray
03-08-2008, 04:23 PM
I'm not a fan of ego's. How is the efficiency on a quest?

vikingshadow
03-08-2008, 05:27 PM
My teammate has a quest and it's worse on efficiency than my PMR (actually, my PMR gets pretty good efficiency, so I don't know what everyone's complaining about.)

Borg is going to be the most efficient, but when air is all-day for like 5-10 bucks, it's just as easy to get a gun that you like rather than just looking for one that's best on air.

The Pumper
03-08-2008, 05:46 PM
Well Vike you may want to use the 5-10 dollars as much as you can but you dont want to run out during a game if its bad efficiency. ;)
But I know what you mean about the price. If youre paying 5-10 bucks for air alone, might as well use it to your advatnage

HelpDeskHustler
03-08-2008, 06:09 PM
PMR has terrible efficiency vike. I just got a case off of a 68/45 with my protege, my PMR got less than half of that. PMR is a money sponge, don't get one unless its used, in which case you'll want a tub of dow 33 with it and a full oring kit since people always sell leaking guns. PMR sucked away like $300 of my money because actionvillage thought it would be cute to drop the price.


Here's what you should worry about in terms of a new gun:

Do you have a GOOD compressed air tank? 68/45 carbon fiber is good.

Will you want a faster hopper/ do you have one? If not, you'll want one. VLocity JR is a good place to start looking.

Will you have enough money to play? If not, save some.

Do you have any other crucial gear? Good mask is always a plus, You'll have a much better time.

After that you'll either still have the full 400, or you'll be worn down to about 200 or 300. I'd get either a used highend such as a dm4/dm5 or possibly even a new SLG. I'd only recommend those because they are cheap though, I really dislike spool valves, except the ion. If you think you'll have the gun for a long time, you don't mind a bit of tinkering... A well upgraded Ion would do it. It all really depends on what you like in a gun.

MR2 Woodsballer
03-08-2008, 06:29 PM
I would have to agree with you HDH except the part about the Proto SLG I have heard those have wicked kick. I would highly reccomand buying a dm5 still great guns and u can buy upgraded ones very cheap.

spray and pray
03-08-2008, 06:34 PM
I have enough gear to be happy. I want a new air efficient gun.
Masks
Flex 8
Events

Hoppers
Halo B
Empire b2 with bone and clutch

Pants
Evil
Empire contact

Jersey
Empire contact

Elbow pads
Planet eclipse

Knee pads
Dye

Tanks
Crossy 69/45
DXS 68/45 (never use it, friend does)
steelie 72/3k


I have been playing for a long time so I have all of the gear.

Muddytaco
03-08-2008, 08:12 PM
If you want a efficient gun go for a cyborg or possibly protege but i doubt you can find one for $400.

STRIKEFIRST
03-08-2008, 08:12 PM
protege...2000 off a 68/4500

spray and pray
03-08-2008, 08:15 PM
Right now my spyder vs2 is highly upped and tuned great. I get 1600-1700 shots off of a 68/45. Should I get a new gun or just keep that. Only reason I would get a new gun is for better efficiency but sounds like I would need to pay 500-600 for the kind of efficiency I want...

The Pumper
03-08-2008, 08:49 PM
if you get 1600-1700 on your vs2...why pay 400 for 300-400 more shots?

bigred76
03-08-2008, 09:05 PM
You gotta count in too that the Cyborg is an insane performing machine that competes with modern year markers that are UPGRADED, even RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX, from 3 years ago! That's unheard of! The only other gun like that's the Viking/Excal, which the Borg is based off of. ;)

spray and pray
03-09-2008, 05:44 AM
ok so would it be best to buy a borg?

vikingshadow
03-09-2008, 06:18 AM
Well Vike you may want to use the 5-10 dollars as much as you can but you dont want to run out during a game if its bad efficiency. ;)
But I know what you mean about the price. If youre paying 5-10 bucks for air alone, might as well use it to your advatnage

I've played a lot of paintball and never run out of air in the middle of a game unless I didn't bother checking my tank after playing quite awhile. The only gun I can think of that sucks that much air is a Tippman A5 my friend used to have - he got about 400 shots off a 20 oz Co2 tank. He frequently had to change tanks in the middle of a long game.

If you fill up before you play, then there isn't any worry, unless you shoot 2000 shots a game

PMR has terrible efficiency vike. I just got a case off of a 68/45 with my protege, my PMR got less than half of that. PMR is a money sponge, don't get one unless its used, in which case you'll want a tub of dow 33 with it and a full oring kit since people always sell leaking guns. PMR sucked away like $300 of my money because actionvillage thought it would be cute to drop the price.

I have to disagree - while I WILL agree that you will get better efficiency from poppit valve guns than spoolies. That's the nature of the operation, not the gun. I don't get a case off my 68/4500, but I do get well over half a case, and that's good for a spoolie.

I can tell you though, I haven't dropped more than 50 dollars into this gun in over a year - not counting the backcap and frame. And that's mostly for orings. That's not a money sponge - I dropped nearly 700 bucks in my shocker to get it to the level my PMR is already at. I'd have to say you got a lemon, because several people have the same results as me. Now, I wish I hadn't paid 600 for the gun and frame, because of their price drop, but I don't regret it either.

Now, back to my original post, if you want efficiency, go for the Borg. But if you have all day air, I say get what you can afford, and what you like.

spray and pray
03-09-2008, 06:25 AM
I need this because i'm in college and I'm going to be reccing for a while. So no air refills.....

NeedForSpeed
03-09-2008, 06:39 AM
I'm not a fan of ego's. How is the efficiency on a quest?

My quest gets about 1500-1600 shots per 68/4500.
There's been some people who have supposedly gotten a whole case.
If you want efficiency and feel you need a new marker save for a Cyborg as stated earlier.

If you get that many shots off your VS2 and will be playing rec..keep it and buy another tank. That will save yourself over $300 and you can over 3000 shots if you really wanted to.

Where will you be reccing? Are you sure there will not be a field near your college? Or do you mean you won't have any money to play at a field while at college?

spray and pray
03-09-2008, 01:12 PM
friend's house. Not near a field.

I have a crossy 68/45, DXS 68/45, and a steelie 72/3k. I shoot ALOT of paint. And a fried uses one of my tanks

tumtum00
03-10-2008, 04:48 AM
well man i was in the same boat a few weeks ago, a friend talked me into getting an ion, actually i found one brand new for 75 shipped, but now that i have it would have paid full price, it shoots awesome, and efficient at stock it got around 1000 rounds out of 72/3000, operating at about 140 psi, and the dwell turned up almost to stock, but i got a 360 qev installed that, and omg dwell went from 45 to like 12, and i get somewhere around 1300 shots for 72/3000 now, and cool body kits you can change with ease, and they are cheap, and i got a thread adapter so i could still use my spyder barrels. hope this helps. good luck gun shopping.