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Doc77
01-10-2008, 05:48 PM
I got the Trinity sick body for my VS2 so I decided to mod my old frame....just for $#!+$ and giggles. I was going to send it in to get halfbacked, but I read about doing it yourself with a dremmel. It just so happens that my brother has a dremmel lying in his closet. I started cutting, making sure that I left at least 1/4" so that the rear o-ring of the bolt remains covered in the cocked position. Is there anything else that I need to know about halfbacking my body?

Doc77
01-15-2008, 01:14 AM
Here's an update on the halfback project I've been doing. I'm using a dremmel for the entire project (cutting, grinding & buffing), which explains why it has been taking me a bit longer than I expected....but I think that it's turning out pretty good. I have completed all of the major cuts, so now I am just rounding off the edges to make the profile a bit cleaner. What do you guys think...keep in mind, this is the first time that I have ever tried anything like this Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Before Picture
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df34b3127cceb38efe6512de00000026100CZs2LZo3YsS

Current Picture
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df34b3127cceb38eeda2528800000026100CZs2LZo3YsS

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df34b3127cceb38eeda0528a00000026100CZs2LZo3YsS

xsvly-fat
01-15-2008, 11:08 AM
very nice

newkid
01-15-2008, 05:21 PM
thats a pretty good looking half back job, cant wait to see finished product

kramernator
01-15-2008, 05:51 PM
i can hardly believe that this is the first time you have done something like this!
it is awesome!!
I would use that body over the trinity one any day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doc77
01-15-2008, 08:25 PM
I'm glad you guys like it as much as I do. OneUp (from PBNation) suggested that I add this mod to the body. It's a bit complicated, but I think that I can pull it off. I plan to get it ano-ed when I'm finished....probably black/red acid finish. Anyone have any other suggestions? I'm open to anything:D

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9231/tempnu3.jpg

newkid
01-16-2008, 02:30 PM
that would look kool

kramernator
01-17-2008, 11:19 AM
i want to do something like this to my gun. what things do i need to worry about
it doesn't matter what kind of gun it is, does it, just in case i will try it on a spyder imagine, or a rodeo. are o-rings the only thing i need to worry about? I mean to make sure that no o-rings are exposed when the bolt is cocked?

OtterSC
01-17-2008, 12:12 PM
OtterSC gives two paws up!

excellent job!

all i would suggest, but am sure you do know, do a light bevel on the inside so that your cuts do not shew up your plastic bolt. other than that, keep going.

MVS1
01-17-2008, 01:18 PM
That is one hell of a nice job you did there. That's nice enough that I don't know if I would even anno it, just polish it a little bit and call it good. :waytogo:

VS2 King
01-17-2008, 01:59 PM
Nicest Vs2 I Have Ever Seen. Two Thumbs Up. Great Job!

swoosh81
01-17-2008, 02:12 PM
Nicest Vs2 I Have Ever Seen. Two Thumbs Up. Great Job!

Agreed

battlechaser
01-17-2008, 06:06 PM
Mmmmmmm... pointy.

Hob Hayward
01-17-2008, 06:33 PM
I gotta hand it to you, that is one of the best halfback jobs I've ever seen.

Also, The trinity body seems pointless when you have that :P anno would definitely be very cool.

Doc77
01-17-2008, 06:50 PM
all i would suggest, but am sure you do know, do a light bevel on the inside so that your cuts do not shew up your plastic bolt. other than that, keep going.

By bevel do you mean the inside of the upper tube? I didn't know that, but now that you mention it, it makes sense. Thanks for the tip.

The trinity body seems pointless when you have that :P anno would definitely be very cool.

LOL.....I would have to agree. But then again, I would have never chopped up the stock VS2 body if I didn't have the Trinity. I played around with this one because I wasn't afraid of messing up. Once I get this ano-ed then I'll prolly just sell the Trinity.

Thanks for the vote of confidence guys. I'm glad you like it :D

Doc77
01-17-2008, 09:42 PM
i want to do something like this to my gun. what things do i need to worry about
it doesn't matter what kind of gun it is, does it, just in case i will try it on a spyder imagine, or a rodeo. are o-rings the only thing i need to worry about? I mean to make sure that no o-rings are exposed when the bolt is cocked?

This is the first time that I've tried this so if you do plan on halfbacking it yourself then just plan everything out before you start.

1) Measure out everything before you start cutting. The main thing that people told me was to make sure that I leave around 1/4" of the top tube to cover all the o-rings when the bolt is in the cocked position. And like Otter said, bevel the edges of the top tube so that you don't have any edges cutting into your bolt.

2) I had a design in mind before I started cutting. I marked both sides using a black Sharpie to indicate the areas that I would be taking off. I wasn't sure about how thin I could go so I made sure that I didn't go any deeper than the deepest section of the stock body (I didn't want to thin out the lower tube to much and have it blow up in my face).

3) Tools: The only thing that I had available was a dremel. I used the following attachments: cutting wheel, drum sander (1/2" and 1/4") with medium and fine grits, 2 grinding bits (they pretty much look like drill bits but the edges are much sharper), another grinding bit (but this one had a searated ball at the tip), a buffing stone, and polishing pads with aluminum rouge.

4) Safety: Always wear eye protection, and by always I mean ALWAYS! The cutting wheels break very easily, and could potentially do some damage. You will also have a lot of aluminum spraying out, and it hurts like hell when it gets in your eyes. I would recommend wearing a long sleeve shirt and pants because aluminum splinters hurt just as bad (if not more) than wood splinters.

Other than that just take your time, and go slowly. It's easy to make a mistake using a dremel. If you have a workbench that you can clamp the body to, I would recommend that. That way, you can keep two hands on the dremel and avoid any accidental slips that nick the hell out of the body. Good luck with your project!

OtterSC
01-18-2008, 03:44 AM
By bevel do you mean the inside of the upper tube? I didn't know that, but now that you mention it, it makes sense. Thanks for the tip.


correct. really, for any cutting done, the inside should be beveled or rounded down. it would reduce friction and chewing up the bolt.

Doc77
01-21-2008, 12:34 AM
I was finally able to continue working on my project today. It was a lot more complicated than I thought it would be, but fortunately I was able to do OneUp's suggestion. One final sanding and it should be good to go. I will try and send it in to get ano-ed this week. I'm not sure how long the turnaround will be on it, but hopefully it won't be too long. Sorry if the pics are a bit blurry. The camera I used isn't as good as the other one I used before.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df00b3127cceb44b9b9578ee00000026100CZs2LZo3YsS

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df00b3127cceb44b9b9178ea00000026100CZs2LZo3YsS

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df00b3127cceb44b9b9378e800000026100CZs2LZo3YsS

spray and pray
01-21-2008, 03:37 AM
I want your body, Like I posted on pbn.

Doc77
01-21-2008, 10:16 AM
I want your body, Like I posted on pbn.

I never get tired at hearing that.....although you're the first guy that's ever said it to me :D

newkid
01-21-2008, 03:57 PM
Doc77 you should definately quote that in to your sig!

Doc77
01-21-2008, 06:15 PM
Doc77 you should definately quote that in to your sig!

Like this?!?! LOL :D

king-man
01-21-2008, 06:50 PM
You should put it back togeather, i wanna c what it looks like togeather.

Hob Hayward
01-21-2008, 07:00 PM
Yeah, VERY nice.

Just make sure to polish it to a mirror before the anno...

newkid
01-22-2008, 04:12 AM
Like this?!?! LOL :D
Exactly hahah

camo_mr1
01-22-2008, 05:14 PM
what stones or dremel bits did you use to give it the brushed chrome look??

Doc77
01-22-2008, 05:33 PM
I didn't use any stones. The most recent pics that I posted were taken after I used the drum sander (Fine - 120 grit). I am currently resanding everything down by hand using 100, 150, 220, 320 & 600 grit aluminum oxide sand paper. After sanding, I will use the polishing wheel attachment for the dremel and either some metal polish (e.g. Mothers) or white rouge (I think white is for aluminum, but I will have to check my charts again). If you want a brushed chrome look you would need to do all the steps that I just said, and then go over everything using the metal wheel brush attachment.

EDIT: Another option is to use satin finish polish. You can get them online for pretty cheap. It's primarily used for jewelry (e.g. stainless steel watch bands).

Doc77
01-23-2008, 08:29 AM
I got some ideas from the guys at PBNation for grinding out the trigger frame...luckily I had an extra one so again, I wasn't afraid to mess it up. As the saying goes...You mess with a bull, you get the horns. But what happens when you mess with a SPYDER?

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df02b3127cceb469b92c09be00000026100CZs2LZo3YsS

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df02b3127cceb469b92d888f00000026100CZs2LZo3YsS

.....you get the FANGS!!! :evil:

spray and pray
01-23-2008, 11:46 AM
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all I have to say

xsgmike66x
01-23-2008, 01:21 PM
Wow! all the work you've been doing to your gun is phenomenal. Making me want to go find my imagine and get to work!

Doc77
01-23-2008, 01:45 PM
Wow! all the work you've been doing to your gun is phenomenal. Making me want to go find my imagine and get to work!

Go for it! I've put in a lot of hours trying to make my VS2 unique, but I love doing things like this so I don't mind it at all. Let me know if you ever plan to do something similar. I would be happy to give you whatever advice I can offer.

xsgmike66x
01-24-2008, 08:50 AM
Go for it! I've put in a lot of hours trying to make my VS2 unique, but I love doing things like this so I don't mind it at all. Let me know if you ever plan to do something similar. I would be happy to give you whatever advice I can offer.


my imagine has been halfblocked for some time now( 2 years???) I cant remember. But recently I've been doing more work to it, but never finished since its not a priority since i no longer play. one day ill make a thread on it when i finish. But yours looks amazing man, one of the best spyders hands down!. You should get a picture of the body and frame together.

Doc77
01-24-2008, 03:55 PM
You should get a picture of the body and frame together.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df05b3127cceb4048ef1a38b00000026100CZs2LZo3YsS

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df05b3127cceb4048efba38100000026100CZs2LZo3YsS

newkid
01-24-2008, 03:57 PM
I like the frame

spray and pray
01-24-2008, 04:22 PM
hmmmmm.... I like